To take thacabbage's side, what does this mean exactly? What players are out there that we want? Do you really want to start handing out 6-year, $36 million Monopoly money deals to scrubs? mayurpatel, you say you want a discussion. Well, fine. Answer the question posed to you by Rockets2K and thacabbage and stop blasting other posters (i.e. take the high road). Let's discuss. Answer the question! BTW, I'm also eagerly awaiting your answer as well.
Offensively, I still like Howard and Taylor. The Lakers problem with Detroit was that the Pistons dared Karla and Slava Medvedenko!!! to shoot, they dared Payton to shoot (who is not a spot up shooter by any stretch), and they dared to George and an unhealthy Fox to shoot. If we get a point who can consistantly bury the open J, teams will have a decistion to make. They already have the burden of doubling either Yao or T-Mac, but now they have to decide who to leave. Howard or Taylor who can hit the open J with a good amount of consistancy? J-Jax who can hit it pretty good, or our dead on shooter PG (which is what I hope happens via trade or cheap FA signing) I know I'm only looking at one side of the ball, but at power forward, if nothing else at least we have 18 fouls And JVG is supposed to be the defensive wizard, so he's supposed to make it happen with what he has. Basically, what everyone else has said, a backup Center who can at least spell Yao if do nothing else, the West Conference STARTING centers are not that great, so the backup should not be too much of a liability, and a PG who can shoot the $#!+ out of the ball. This team is not far, in my opinion.
Hahaha...You're one of those losers who sign up to various forums online just to poke fun of others and try to egg on verbal confrontation to make yourself feel better b/c you have no opinions of your own. I haven't seen you post one basketball related thought in this thread with the exception that you like getting off to watching T-Mac more than Steve, Cat and Cato. Talk to me when you can post a real opinion on the Rockets and the moves of the offseason. rolleyes: . Peace.
So are people starting idiotic trade threads. Hell, if I started a thread entitled "T-MAC RULEZ!" I'd be discussing basketball. But it doesn't meant its worthwhile. So your argument is irrelevant. It's easy to start a feeding frenzy. The question is whether it's worthwhile. And you'll notice the large majority of posters consider your position is absurd. I wouldn't exactly think that at's argument for the merit of posting. You are being hysterical. There are many well-considered posts about the Rockets summer strategy. If you wished, you could have posted in any one of those without me caring in the slightest.
That's the problem with announcing these monster trades at the beginning of summer. By the end of summer, everyone's saying the team is mediocre. It's like in order for us to stay motivated we need to continually change things. The Lakers and the Spurs have already proven that in order to win, you do not change. A recent example was the roster changes the Lakers made after their 3rd straight ring. The following year the Spurs won it. Then the Spurs made changes and Detroit won it. Do you see the Pistons making any major adjustments? I guess it has more to do with cap space as far as maintaining the same guys. The fact that most people had the Lakers winning another ring because they picked up Malone and Payton, made it even more obvious. I hope that we can pickup a proven PG and lock him in for at least 2 years without killing our cap, because I really think that Gaines could be our up and coming PG. IMHO
Just wait it out...Some FA signings do not work out like they are supposed too. Do I need to mention Scottie Quitten to get my point across? Or how about Grant Hill for the Magic...Excellent deal there. If we do not get our guard this year then we'll give Spanoullis a shot next year. I am really encouraged that this guy could be a steal in the draft and might pan out to be one of the better passing guards in the league. I think we have all the right pieces so I am not as worried as you.
I talk about basketball on this forum frequently. There's no need for me to present basketball related thought in this empty thread created by a bunch of paranoid chicken running around with their heads cut off. It's hard to talk people out of excessive optimism or pessimism. Reality does. Don't make me laugh with you having real opinions on basketball by repeating the same old pessimistic stuff on this board.
A market fluctuates yearly. This year, many teams chose to overspend on players on the basis that it could carry them far for the immediate future. Unless any of you knew what went on in the backgrounds, none of you can actually specify whether or not CD or Les went after any of these players. In fact, it is with high probability that the Rockets DID make an offer or at least discuss a contract with the people that "slipped through our hands." It won't be possible to get everyone to agree on the same subject; which is why there are so many responses. There are also that many responses because the majority does NOT agree with the initial thread. For once, I'm glad that the Rockets did NOT jump the gun to acquire a medium-ranged-at-best FA for a good portion of the salary cap in order to appease the immediate future. However, I can almost be certain that the Rockets would not mind paying for some of these FAs, only to be outdone by ridiculous contract sizes offered by GS (whom already has 5-6 other guards), SA (who does have money to spare to pay a 31ish year old a nice 4 year contract), amongst others. Look, Yao's contract will be up for an extention... next year, I believe. Do you want to spend ur cap space that way? There are many factors in which people offer such high contracts to the average player(s). I think the most important thing is that they already have their franchise player(s) locked up and are not afraid of not being able to sign them back. If we get stuck with one of those long-tern contracts, there will be NO WAY for the Rockets to contend for a better player in the upcoming years. (Read all the Glen Rice, Mo Taylor, Kelvin Cato, Moochie Norris threads) Besides, a couple of top stars with role players is EXACTLY what won the championship for so many past years. Detroit has their role players doing their jobs with Campbell, Okur, Prince, etc. Lakers with their shooters outside Kobe/ Shaq. SA with Duncan / Parker etc. Bulls with Jordan / he whose name I refuse to mention. A team of stars (a la Lakers 2003-2004) does not gaurantee a championship. A defensive minded team with good execution seems to be the correct formula. You won't have Malone/Payton signing with u for that price every year. Talent costs money, and as of THIS year, they're being overpaid. There are still quality out there in Damon Jones etc. I think the Rockets are better off taking their chances on a PG that has good range and can spread the floor with good defense. With TMac and Yao, both of whom are able to distribute the ball (TMac's passing ability is not bad although he ended up taking that many shots in orlando.... mainly because he has to.), role players with good defense and the ability to nail that open jump shot is what's needed to make a good team great. We do not need another star to create their own shots if we play JVG's system right. Last thing, the season is still at least a couple of months away. I don't get the people who can gaurantee failure. I guess it's always like this: no matter what a team does, it's never enough. It's still a financial business. Teams need to survive and going over the cap is the easiest way to kill a franchise. It's a business world, where a couple of bad decisions could make things horrible for the upcoming X amount of years. If we sign, let's say Fisher, to a huge 6 year contract, the Yao/Tmac duo might not be available after next year, the caps might change due to the TV contract expirations, and the owners are stuck paying them. I know it's mentioned many times before, but the phrase: "Patience is a Virtue" is very upholding. The Rockets will put up the best TEAM available for the next 10 or so years.
Wow! All the sarcasm, animousity and personal attacks in this thread brings back memories of last season on this BBS. I think that the reason that the Rockets have not made a move so far is due to two factors: One, this year's FA market (particularly for PGs) was way out of wack with big money going to average to mediocre (not to mention just plain old) players. Two, CD really doesn't know WHAT to do so he's doing nothing. What's needed now is someone with a keen eye for finding unused or under utilized talent on other team's rosters and that is not CD's forte (given his track record).
I couldn't have said it better myself. Let me repeat one thing........ Patience is a virtue!!!! Patience may drive you insane for a short while because you want results right now, but not having that patience could drive you insane for years (Derek Fisher at 37 years old paying him 8 mil...ewwwwwwwwwww). Pugs
arent we all just expressing opinions? is it not simply your opinion that having an opinon is lame? in my opinion, i think that the rox are being smart by not overreacting and signing an average/crappy player to long term big bucks. we made a historical move this summer. bringing in t-mac has increased our chances at having a legit shot at the title in the next few seasons. i dont think that steve could get us there. we made a move to become elite. we are definately heading in the right direction and there is no need to go for the short-term fix. and some of the posts/stats regarding juwon have made me more positive about his abilites to hold his own in the WC. this team is not a finished product. we are building for the future. PATIENCE DANIEL SON.
I think the gentlemen is referring to all of the "Brent Barry would be ideal for the Rockets" threads that populated this board. Same thing with threads about "Fish" before that outrageous contract. One thing that I feel is being overlooked is the possible source of so much anxiety about the Rockets' lack participation in this year's FA market. This team has a past history of not following through on big trades involving star players and I think that fact has some folks uneasy about this latest rebuilding effort from the same crew that has botched the earlier ones. In this respect, some uneasiness is understandable, even expected. As for patience, it's also in short supply. Prior to this year, the Rockets spent 4 straight years in the lottery with nothing to show for their efforts save for Yao. IMHO, that used up a lot of the goodwill and patience amongst the fandom. That the Rockets are both better and worse because of the T-Mac deal is not what's in question - it's what they will do to address the weaknesses on this roster that is in question.
