Yep. I was thinking the SAME thing! That's my Kim! Beautiful... but dumb as rocks. Please tell me someone took a screen capture of that particular scene...
Kim is clearly the dumbest person on the planet. Who didn't see that coming being brought down to the bomb shelter! She is a complete waste on this show. She offers NOTHING to the show and doesn't advance the storyline in any manner! Her ONLY role on the show in context with the main storyline is to have Jack be "worried" about her. Big deal! Enough with her running away from mountain lions and being coaxed down into a basement with a guy you don't even know. Either put her in a situation where it matters or don't put her on the show. Chris
They need to kill off Sherry Palmer immediately. I miss Yelena. Kim is hilarious. Total comic relief. The scary tiger was a stitch. Try humming the theme song to "Stripes" every time her plot thread comes up. Kevin Dillon and whatnot. Too much. It has unbelievably violent lately. They love to show torture and all that -- the scenes last week with Sayed Ali's kids was shocking -- I can't believe they show it anywhere. The double standard between sex and violence is pretty amazing -- you can show that torture scene from a few weeks back or that one from last week, but you can't show a gentle graphic intercourse between consenting late-teens? Whatever. I love 24. CBFC
Does anyone know what happened to Nina Myers? She has suddenly disappeared! I don't remember a resolution to her story line. Where the hell did she go? And Sherry Palmer must stay! She's keeping this show interesting. I just gotta wonder how the ex-wife of a President has so much influence and power! She's in cahoots with the head of NSA and is in so deep that she can pawn him off for torture! Her wicked evilness makes this show all the more great!
I thought that after she gave away the location of Sajed Ali, she received her pardon and was sent out of the country. I remember Palmer saying: "We'll stick to the original deal. Nina will receive her pardon." I don't think we'll see any more of her. It would be cool if she made an appearance in the final episode, though. Nina is lounging around beside a pool in some tropical resort, enjoying her freedom. The camera follows her hand as she reaches over to pick up a pina colada. When it moves back into place, Jack is standing behind her. He deadpans, "Hello Nina." She drops her drink and the glass breaks as the show ends.
How about an episode with no Kim AT ALL? Very refreshing. Plus Jack has killed something like 20 people in the past two episodes. The guy from Coral Snake was right, Jack is a cold-blooded killer. I wondered how this show was going to survive after they detonated the nuke, and for an episode I was pretty much unenthralled, but its getting pretty freaking intense here at the end. This is the one of the very few network shows worth a damn.
2 straight episodes without Kim! SWEET! and Jack is back to his "kill first ask questions later" hardass mode. But seriously, Youseff dies from an attack but Bauer is back on the street after being tortured and clinically dead for a few minutes? I know he's a "tough guy" but come one! (I nitpick because I care!)
Mateo, Many people (including myself) don't watch the spoilers for the following week on purpose (because they give away too much info). Therefore you may want to edit your post to take away that part about the teaser for next week. I didn't want to read it, but what's done is done. I know the thread title says "($$spoilers$$)" but I assumed since it was an old thread, all the spoilers were from months ago and that you were bringing it back just to discuss the show. Maybe I was wrong in my assumption (obviously I was), but I would still edit your teaser info with a spoiler tag in your post.
Yeah, but he had enough epinephrine shot directly into his heart that he's gonna be juiced up for awhile. Hell he's running around killing folks without shoes on. I'll remove the spoiler part...the only reason I had it was cause the thread name had "spoilers" in it, but good idea anyway. Hell, I had to go back 75 days to find a 24 thread that wasnt about jumping the shark.
I believe that's two Kim-less episodes in a row. Anybody ever visit the website http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/ . They give funny recaps of pretty much every television show on TV after each episode airs. They simply refer to Kim as <i>Spawn</i>. Here's their short summary (not the full recap) from two episodes ago. <b>Are you there, God? It's me, Palmer.</b> 24 - Palmer wants to "wait a while," but the Department of Defense wants to seize the day and go "all the way." His unwillingness to bomb the Middle East leads the alpha girls of his cabinet to form a special club where they do bust exercises, discuss their periods, and plot to invoke the Twenty-Fifth Amendment and remove him from his position as president. Kiefer is kaptured, stripped, and tortured in the un-sexiest possible way. b****elle's crazy brother comes by for a crazy visit. Spawn is nowhere to be seen.
LOL! More funniness from the website. Here's the full recap from two episodes ago. http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/story.cgi?show=73&story=5006 Due to some graphic violence, viewer discretion is advised. Oh, and Kiefer's naked. Beep beep beep beep beep. 24. Previouslys. b****elle puts Soul Patch in touch with Kiefer, who tells him that he's on the verge of getting evidence of the Cyprus recordings but CTU has to stay out of it. The evidence, according to a dying SeventhCoralSnake, is inside of him…literally. It's in a microchip planted inside his torso. Meanwhile, Rolaide, PoorMan'sHumeCronyn, and the DoD are pressuring Palmer to bomb Fauxraqistan, Akalakistan, and Tofurkey…now! The following takes place between 2:00 AM and 3:00 AM. Division. A general is briefing Palmer, his staff, and the Joint Chiefs about the surprise attack. According to this general, bomb squadrons are on their way to three targets. He points to Fauxraqistan, Tofurkey, and Akalakistan on a map, and he's basically pointing to Libya, Algeria, and Tunisia. Palmer is uncomfortable and testy at this meeting. This leads Vice President Prescott, a.k.a. PoorMan'sJoeLieberman, to ask Palmer if he's really behind these air strikes. Okay, you know how, in those advice columns like Ann Landers and Ask Beth, some girl would write in -- about once a month, it seemed -- and say, "I'm a virgin, and my boyfriend says that if I really really loved him, I'd go 'all the way,' but I don't feel ready…"? Well, basically that's what we have with Palmer and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. If Palmer rilly rilly loves his country and wants to do something about the B-O-M-B, he'll let them bomb these Middle Eastern countries now and prove it. Palmer informs everyone present that Kiefer may have evidence that proves the Cyprus recordings are a fake, and that they need to wait for his okay before they retaliate. "Mr. President," says the general. "This battle plan requires us to surprise the enemy with overwhelming force. We will lose that advantage if we wait any longer." He goes on to claim that by losing that surprise advantage, the U.S. will suffer up to 20,000 casualties. Okay, you know how, in those aforementioned advice columns, another girl -- or who knows, maybe the same girl -- would write in and say, "My boyfriend says he has a condition called 'blue balls' and that if I don't go all the way with him, the sperm will build up in his penis and kill him. Is that true?" And then invariably the columnist's answer will be, "Tell your boyfriend to just jerk himself off already," or something more polite and clinical. Basically, that's what they're using to convince Palmer to go all the way: the blue balls defense. If you don't bomb now, 20,000 of us will die. "Then we have no choice but to proceed with the plan as stated," says Palmer, reluctantly letting the Joint Chiefs of Staff lead him into the backseat of their dad's Impala and remove his panties. Dear Diary: Remember how I wanted my first time bombing a country to be special…like in a meadow full of wildflowers? Well, that totally never happened. Also? I've got a pimple.
the Washington Post had a great article about the Kimless episode last week and how fans across the land can't stand her. They even mention the nickname "Spawn" I'll see if I can find it.
Voila! Run, Kim, Run! On '24,' a Ludicrous but Alluring String of Perils By Hank Stuever Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, April 21, 2003; Page C01 Lord love her, it's not easy being Kim Bauer. The writers of television's "24" would tie her to train tracks if they could, because there's nothing like a barely legal blonde in a tight shirt getting herself in all kinds of trouble, is there, America? In an action-adventure series consisting almost entirely of complicated, nail-biting, may-I-have-an-Ativan-please subplots of global terrorism, the Tuesday night Fox show has fixed on our love of the Pauline caricature in constant peril. Kim, the danger-prone teenage daughter of Counter Terrorism Unit special agent Jack Bauer, fits a certain niche in these frantic times. Without meaning to, she has come to represent the vapidity and naive innocence of a Britney Nation caught up in something deadly serious, with only her wits and the occasional visibility of her nipples to save her. As much as viewers love to hate Stupid, Stupid Kim (rabid online fans at Television Without Pity have simply and scornfully nicknamed her "Spawn"), it now seems, in the 20th hour of "24's" minute-by-minute saga, that fans are rallying around her. Kim is us. We are Kim. Every time your cell phone doesn't work, every time you get kidnapped, every time you lose your car keys or, say, can't get away from trained assassins, or every time you're stuck in traffic (or causing a jam, like the time you set that deputy's vehicle on fire, or the time the cops found your boss's dead wife in the trunk of the car, which, technically, you stole from him), every time your boyfriend loses his leg trying to help you thwart disaster, just think of Kim and know you're not alone. Maybe it was the mountain lion that did it. Hours ago (since "24" unfolds in "real time"), Kim was running from Ventura County sheriff's deputies who just didn't understand. They didn't understand that her father was trying to stop terrorists from detonating a nuclear bomb in Los Angeles, and they didn't understand that the man who employed her as a nanny had beaten and murdered his wife and was now intent on killing his small child and Kim; didn't understand how she'd narrowly escaped the bombing of the CTU headquarters in downtown L.A. Nobody understands when you're Kim. They chased her into the woods at nightfall. Kim being Kim, she stepped into an animal trap, which clamped tight around her ankle. A mountain lion soon growled nearby. A Kim Bauer nadir was reached that night, a new low of ridiculous peril, and her place was forever sealed in television's trivial history. Fortunately, Spawn was rescued by a nice enough man who lived in a cabin nearby. Unfortunately, he turned out to be one of those paranoid, loner, militia types, and he locked her in his tricked-out underground bomb shelter. He wanted a post-apocalypse love slave. Fortunately, she got away and took one of his guns. She made it through the dark woods to the highway, and some guy offered her a ride. Unfortunately, he also wanted to rape her. Fortunately, she shot out the car window of the new creep and he sped off. After hitching another ride (and believing her father to now be dead, by the way), she wound up in a liquor store asking to use the bathroom. (Kim is the only character on "24" with bodily needs. Back at the Counter Terrorism Unit, the women's bathroom is useful only as a place for "dirty" mole spies to make surreptitious cell phone calls. And they never flush the toilet.) It seemed as if the store owner was going to be yet another guy who wanted to rape Kim, but no. He was shot dead instead by a desperate, looney-tunes Latino stereotype trying to stock up on supplies for the impending world war. He held Kim hostage, but the cops shot him and she escaped. Spawn is now loose in the world again. It's only a matter of time before she is kidnapped by the men behind an evil coup to overthrow the president and wage war on three countries in the Middle East. Kim, so marginal, so meandering, so imperiled, will somehow find her way back into the main plotline before the season finale next month. (Where, hopefully, nobody will ask her, "How was your day?") Overblown and melodramatic as the show must sound to non-addicts, the pop-culture landscape happens to need "24" right now. Though violent enough to warrant a network disclaimer for viewer discretion, the show uncannily mirrors and overstates the true-life, time's-a-ticking anxieties of a world maxed out on worry. Many a Tuesday night you can segue from the plot of "24" (terrorist mastermind Syed Ali captured and interrogated!; Jack rushes to defuse nuke!) to the panic of "Fox 5 News at 10" (terrorist mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammad nabbed!; nation remains on Code Orange alert!), and perhaps this is one reason why "24's" ratings have gone continually up this season, adding viewers even as the show lurches toward a convoluted home stretch. And the further we go, the stupider Kim gets. Yelling at her is like a national release valve; she is pure tragicomic relief. The character -- gamely played by 20-year-old Canadian actress Elisha Cuthbert -- is delicious, bratty, hot bait. Last year Kim was kidnapped three times in the span of 24 hours, once by thugs in a custom van, who ran over her best friend, and then by Slavic mobster-assassins. She was almost raped at least once, and then she was in a car wreck, and also in a car that plunged down one of those Mulholland ravines you see all the time in cop shows. That car exploded, but Kim was thrown to the side, and was later arrested in a violent drug raid at a meth house. She fell in love with one of her kidnappers. The Slavs captured her again and she escaped by leaping into a murky marina, as they fired guns at her. Her mother, Teri Bauer, was also kidnapped a few times last season, and raped once. (The women of "24" are in serious need of a Take Back the Night march. Sexual violence is to the modern TV drama what being tied to train tracks was to the silent-movie era. The metaphor is almost too simple.) Eventually Teri was shot and killed by the counterspy who'd had an affair with her husband. This season, it seemed for a time that Kim had smartened up, and even taken a self-defense class or two. Fleeing her psychotic wife-beating boss, she grabbed her big purse. (She even had a working cell phone for an entire episode.) Fans hoped the purse would stay with her all season, containing any number of helpful gadgets and items that would help her escape the many perils that surely awaited her -- much like the Harlem Globetrotter who, in the cartoon series of the early 1970s, could pull useful appliances out of his giant afro. Kim lost her purse many episodes ago; maybe when the office building was bombed, maybe at the hospital, or maybe when her boss tried to beat her to death. Of course she lost her purse. Stupid, stupid wonderful Kim. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64808-2003Apr20.html
Why in the world would we want 24 without Kim? As long as we get at least 1 shot per episode of her in her underwear, I am fine.
Fox has definitely covered the torture/ interrogation scene angle this season. We had: (1) First scene of show with Korean guy named Jason Park being tortured with some sort of buckets of water pulley system before he gives info about the nuke (2) The PI being tortured by Syed Ali and his cronie...a little acid on the torso, working the electric knife, cutting off a limb or two... (3) Syed Ali's cronie chops off part of Kate Warner's ear while asking about her father's company files (4) Secret Service agent Simmons zaps NSA Director Roger Stanton in the head with a defribilator to find out about the conspiracy against the President (5) Jack kicks the crap outta Syed Ali and pretends to execute S.A's family to get info about the bomb's location (6) After shooting Marie Warner in the arm, Jack pushes the bullet around to cause insane pain so she will tell the location of the nuke (7) Jack having a soldering iron jammed into his gut a few times, plus electricuted to cardiac arrest, plus injected with some sort of chemical that made his diaphram fail
