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Another 17 year old killed by a GUN!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by fmullegun, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. okierock

    okierock Member

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    I think we should pass a law outlawing Chinese people.... the damn Chinese invented gunpowder so it's their fault that this poor fellon got his dumb a$$ shot.

    Who invented those rockets that the Palestinians keep shooting at Israel? I think they have some splaining to do...
     
  2. Rocket River

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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/24/miami.shooting/index.html

    Victims say masked gunman responsible for Miami shootings

    MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Miami police issued a plea for information Saturday after at least one person with an assault rifle opened fire on a crowd of people on a streetcorner Friday night, killing two teens and wounding seven other people.


    Evidence markers dot the Miami street where nine people were gunned down with an AK-47 Friday night.

    1 of 3 "We need the community to come together, someone come forward and give us a tip," Miami Police Officer Kenia Alfonso told CNN.

    "There are a lot of people in that area. Someone must have seen something, someone must know who could've done this horrific crime."

    Alfonso said two teens, ages 16 and 18, died in the attack, which broke up a game of craps in front of a grocery store about 9:50 p.m. Friday in the city's Liberty City neighborhood.

    Five of the shooting victims were still in the hospital Saturday night, according to CNN affiliate WSVN.

    Others told WSVN that a masked man with an AK-47 burst onto the scene and ordered everyone to the ground.

    "Boy came round the corner; he was like, 'Get down,' and he just started shooting," 16-year-old victim Andrew Jackson told WSVN.

    Six of the nine shot were current or former Northwestern Senior High School students, Alfonso said.

    "It was like a war zone," resident Joan Rutherford told WSVN. "I witnessed this guy laying there with his face, looked like it was completely tore off. His eyes was all I could see, and he had a grip on some money and gasping and trying to lift his head up to say something."

    Police Chief John Timoney said that at least one man with an AK-47 "discharged numerous rounds, then ran around the corner. There were some more rounds discharged there from an AK-47 and another weapon."

    One of those wounded was in critical condition Saturday and undergoing surgery, Timoney said.

    "We are convinced that because of the amount of people out here last night that there is somebody that knows the individuals or individual involved, and we need them to come forward," Timoney said, according to WSVN.


    "These are weapons of war, and they don't belong on the streets of Miami or any other street in America," Mayor Manuel Diaz said. Watch Miami residents call for stricter laws ยป




    Just more for the discussion - Rocket River
     
  3. fmullegun

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  4. Red Chocolate

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    and so begins the slow phasing out of assault weapons and guns in general. Obama said he wouldn't, but he may now have to "change his mind".
     
  5. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    wrong.

    He never said he would not. His surveys all show support for handgun bans and the end of concealed weapons.
     
  6. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    Lets add a little more discussion

    Local flavor

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6219604.html


    BAN ARROWS!!!

    FOR THE CHILDREN!
     
  7. Dairy Ashford

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    Rocket River's post just reminded me, did anybody post the story about that guy in Brockton who went on a racist kill spree?

     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Are you kidding me? You could buy AK-47's for 100 bucks before the Brady bill was introduced. I have at least 4 friends that have them. Since the Brady was allowed to lapse, I imagine they can be had pretty easily again but maybe not for $100 bucks.
     
  10. fredred

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    Yep. My best friend bought one, in semi-auto of course, for $500 a few months ago. Mass murders with assault rifles are not that big of an issue though, as the story above is far more the exception then the rule. Generally, its cheap handguns that do the trick, and its those that gun control laws should be focusing on, not AK47s.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    WTF does that matter?

    Two wrongs do not make a right.

    DD
     
  12. Dairy Ashford

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    That's because more people drive more often than they shoot guns. I've totaled two cars in three wrecks, albeit sober, and didn't get a single scratch in any of them. Three accidental shootings might not net the same result.
     
  13. zantabak1111

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    wait so the gun got up on its 2 legs thought hard and then decided to shoot the 17 year old OR did an idiot in possession of a gun kill a 17 year old. CHL is a great thing to have and I'll be glad to have mine when I inevitably get carjacked one day in this lovely world we call houston
     
  14. Red Chocolate

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    well then this is mighty convenient timing. I must have been thinking about this article I read a while ago:

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318968,obama-gun-sales-up-120808.article

    When politicians say "not" to do something, you should probably consider doing the opposite.
     
  15. fmullegun

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    those are not AK47's. An AK47 is fully automatic.
     
  16. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    hahahahah
    awesome article thanks!


    Listen to this tidbit

    thanks for determining the number of guns I need Mr. .Gov man

    I am so glad you can think for me so I don't have to use my own brain.
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    When did you become such a gun nut fmullegun ?
     
  18. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    Not really a gun nut. Don't own very many.
     
  19. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    You're talking symantics. You can get a semi auto variant that can be converted to full auto relatively easily for a few hundred bucks. Or you can just bump fire it.
     
  20. Ottomaton

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    I agree that it is annoying, but the entire back and forth of argument in the pro gun/anti gun debate is semantics. That is, unfortunately, where the debate is moved these days.


    If you can actually make your gun slam fire, you can't stop it from firing until the magazine is empty. If you have a gun that can slam fire, it is impractically difficult to get in position dynamically to use, it is exceptionally dangerous to the shooter, and it isn't possible without modification on most guns.

    As far as converting, it is just as easy to convert a semi-automatic hunting shotgun to full auto. It requires a decent machine shop with people who have a sizable skill set. I'm sure professional organized crime people or survivalist compound whackos have a setup to get it done, but the average person can't just walk down to the corner and get some guy to do it.
     

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