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Ann Coulter defends Gannon and uses bigotted language..

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Feb 28, 2005.

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  1. NJRocket

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    ive never been booted and ive never threatened anyone physically...must have the wrong guy
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    The comment showed how things were in the mind of Ann Coulter, but had no bearing of the way things are in today's society in general.

    Thankfully most of society doesn't believe a person simply who descends from Arabs is automatically a threat to the president.

    Helen Thomas is actually a great example to yours and Coulter's twisted logic.
     
  3. NJRocket

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    that's where you are in serious denial
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Please enlighten me as to how all Arabs are automatically seen as a threat to the President in today's society.
     
  5. NJRocket

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    In your opinion, since 9-11, are arabs scrutinized more closely in our society?

    If you answer no, then , while I think you would be in denial, I'll agree to disagree because we obviously are not on the same page when it comes to this topic

    if you answer yes, then you have answered your own question
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Being Closer scrutinized isn't the same thing as assuming all Arabs are automatically a threat to the president.
     
  7. NJRocket

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    nice spin job...u obviously refuse to address the question....this is going nowhere...look, sorry if her comment offended u (i have no idea if u ar arab or not), but in my opinion, it was said tongue in cheek and was relative to today's society and emphasis on security
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    It must be tough for Coulter having the Mad Arab in command of CentCom in the Middle East.

    Her head will explode when she realizes that she's not supporting all our troops.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    :rolleyes:

    I never had any illusions that Kerry would win Texas. The sign being stolen just shows the immaturity and utter lack of class that many, many Bush supporters show every time I turn around. You are another shining example.
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    You're right. My memory was fuzzy. You just said, "Be careful, BJ... you can take that anyway you like."

    My apologies.
     
  11. StupidMoniker

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    Ann Coulter doesn't think Helen Thomas is a threat to the president. It was a joke. She was making a comment on people who thought Gannon was a threat to the president. I don't even like Coulter, both a liar and not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I can see that she is not too concerned that Helen Thomas is going to try to assassinate the president.
     
  12. Oski2005

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    Uh, nobody ever said Gannon was a threat to the President. The whole thing with Gannon is that everybody knows he's a plant, but to play it off, the administration has to make it look like he got in legitimately. Of course, there's no way somebody with his credentials gets in, unless the administration wanted him there.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    No Ann Coulter did say insinuate that having any Arab near the President was a threat.

    Ann Coulter made that claim because others made the claim that it is dangerous to have people who aren't reporters using fake names and being allowed to be yards away from the president.

    If the comment was just about Helen Thomas based on who Helen Thomas is then it would have been a joke. It actually would have been funny. But the basis for her joke was that having any Arab(Helen Thomas or not) near the president was a risk. Sadly the joke was not about Helen Thomas but about an Arab being allowed to be yards away from the president.

    Why is it that so many people who don't like Ann Coulter somehow magically can't see how this comment was racist while others including several media outlets see her comment for exactly what it is. It has been explained in this thread many times already. The basis of her so called 'joke' is that it is dangerous to have an Arab close to the president. That is racist assigning a negative character trait to all people of a certain nationality.

    Here is a list of places where those of you don't understand can read further because these people grasped the concept of what Coulter was saying.

    http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2005/02/lipstick_fascis.php

    http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/27/202150/382

    http://talkleft.com/new_archives/009870.html

    http://www.bradblog.com/

    Actually there are plenty more sites, that had no trouble seeing the remarks as containing the blatant racism that others seem to have a hard time fathoming. I just got fatigued looking at so many sites.

    Of course there is also the fact that apparently Ann or someone else associated with Ann recognized the remark for what it was and that is why it was EDITED BY THEM.

    They wouldn't have done that if they were just a harmless joke free from all possible offense.

    Instead we have people here who don't understand how the remark is racist, or have such little understanding of journalistic standards that they think news commentary is an appropriate place for racial jokes.

    I wonder if people are just arguing for the sake of arguing and don't really mean all of what they've claimed in this thread.
     
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    Actually. .. which of you is Chris Rock more likely to meet upclose and personal?

    I really am not scared of too many people. .. but more situations

    Rocket River
     
  15. NJRocket

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    dumbest analogies ever
     
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    apology accepted
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Not really. They both portray stereo types assigned to people based solely on race and not on the actual qualities of the person.

    Just like assigning the quality that any Arab is a threat to the President.

    The analogies are quite appropriate.

    You were the one who thought it was ok that ARabs are thought of automatically as a threat to the President because of the actions of a few Arabs. I merely extended that logic elsewhere.

    Looking over it again, I am more than ever satisfied with those analogies.
     
  18. NJRocket

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    they are utterly ridiculous

    yes they portray stereotypes...but they dont have anything to do with how our society has changed since 9-11

    when i turn on the news and see a warning that there a bunch of blacks, jews or white serial-killer types are congregating and plotting to attack the US, then your analogies can hold water
     
  19. RocketMan Tex

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    I guess you're looking for something that kills more people than the Oklahoma City federal building bombing did.....
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Our security measures and vulnerability may have changed since 9/11. But the attacks weren't an excuse for racism.

    I listed other tragedies in my analogies some of which were more serious and costly than 9/11.

    You don't like the analogies, because your logic is faulty in thinking it is ok to assign stereotypes to people as a result of a tragedy.

    I listed other tragedies many of which were more grave than 9/11 and stereotypes that could follow.
     

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