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Andrew Luck out 2-6 with abdominal injury

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by joeson332, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. HillBoy

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    The Texans are not terrible, just mediocre. But in this division, mediocre works. Last time I looked there were no style points given out in the NFL and you can only play the teams on your schedule and hope for the best. By no means am I suggesting that being mediocre is the goal here. I don't believe that BoB nor McNair would settle for that. But, I believe and I hope you agree that long suffering Houston football deserve to enjoy this team making the playoffs. It would be good to see them happy. Plus, anytime Houston fans can call out the Cows is a good time. If the situation was reversed I can guarantee you that the Cows fans would have NO qualms lording it over the Texans fans. You have no idea just how arrogant and hypocritical these folks are up here - especially toward the Texans.
     
  2. Hey Now!

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    I don't get the doom and gloom; I mean, if the Texans really do win the division at 6-10, that would be laughably awful.

    At the same time, what if they go 3-3 these next six weeks and then win their final two (8-8)? Or, hell - what if they go 4-2 and *then* win their final 2? I don't think either will happen - but there's at least an opportunity here for them to play at least one *home* playoff game. Why are we so steadfastly opposed to that idea?
     
  3. FLASH21

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    Even though I agree with Ziggy, HillBoy is also right. These guys haven't done sh** since the Rockets last won championships yet still tout themselves as "America's Team", please. if any team were close to that it'd be the dumbass Patriots. They've been "America's Team" since 2002.

    Regardless our schedule doesn't look very favorable. I feel like this will be a two man race between the Jags (Bortles) and Titans (Mariota)... hmm makes you wonder how much different we'd look with a decent QB at the helm.
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    Their defense is pretty terrible, actually.
     
  5. BigM

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    I don't see enough wins in our schedule to overtake them unless they just completely tank.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    If the Colts are missing Luck for 6 weeks, and they end up losing 5 games because of it, then that would put them at 6-10 at best. As ridiculous as it sounds, the Texans could still make the playoffs....it would be a really hollow playoff berth, but you take what you can get.
     
  7. showa13

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    The entire AFC South is a dumpster fire
     
  8. Mashing

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    I honestly want better draft position. I'm looking toward the future, and believe we need to have as high as draft slot as we can get so we can trade up (to #1 if needed) to our QB. Winning the division and having a home playoff game would be bitter sweet to say the least and I believe it'd set us back at least 2 years.
     
  9. rhino17

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    With Hasselbeck, the Colts are still way better than the Texans. And the Colts are not even an average team

    The Texans have about 2 more wins in them this year
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    Qb is about the same but colts have a better running game and better defense than us.
     
  11. c1utchfan925

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    Unfortunate news for the Colts but it shouldn't give our guys extra motivation to win games. We need our defense to play as well as they can and our offensive line + Hoyer not to play too horrendously against Dalton and the Bengals. I still remember being at the Texans first play off win against the Bengals with Yates leading the helm. It was only a few seasons past but it's seemed like that was a completely different team with a completely different destiny.
     
  12. Ericstocracy

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    Texans Next 6 Weeks:

    Bengals 8-0 L
    Jets 5-3 ?
    Saints 4-5 ?
    Bills 4-4 L
    Patriots 8-0 L
    Colts 4-5 L

    Colts Next 6 Weeks:

    Bye -
    @ Atlanta 6-3 L
    Tampa 3-5 W
    @Steelers 5-4 ?
    @ Jags 2-6 W
    Texans 3-5 W

    That's a minimum of 4 losses for the Texans and at least 3 wins for the Colts by the end of Luck's timetable to return.

    The Texans are going to get easily trucked by the Bengals and the Patriots. And on the road up in Buffalo, I have little doubt they'll lose that one too. We all know there isn't a snow balls chance in hell the Texans win in Indy either. The Saints have a very bad defense, but the Texans secondary is no match for Brees. If the Jets defense returns and they run the ball successfully (which isn't difficult against the Texans), that's a wrap for the Texans as well.

    Even with a couple of missed weeks, Hasselbeck can still keep them afloat, I mean he dominated the Texans while still not recovered from the flu. Tampa, Jags, and Texans are all bad teams. Shouldn't be hard to dispatch them. Atlanta has faltered lately, but I think they recover. The Steelers have no defense, but Rothlisberger should be back by then, it's a toss up.

    That leaves the Texans roughly around 3-11 to 5-9 before the final 2 games of the season, and the Colts anywhere from 7-7 and 8-6. Given the scenarios, The Colts will win the division. Any thoughts otherwise are comical. The Texans will wind up being either in 2nd or last. I don't think the Jags are all that good, and I don't have faith in their QB. The Titans however have a very good defense, and Mariota who has happend to look pretty good. Whether Mularkey coaches as he always has, or turns it around, could spell the end of any possibility of having a fighters chance.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Long Term . . . would making the playoffs be a good thing?
    For Us?

    Would NOT MAKING the playoffs be a good thing for the Colts?
    Will they be able to get their DeAndre Hopkins in the draft
    higher draft picks?

    Rocket River
     
  14. Nick

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    How'd higher draft picks work out for the Texans in the 2014 draft?

    If they nail rounds 2-4, it really doesn't matter where they pick... that will make any draft look 1000x better than the majority of their drafts as a franchise.
     
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  15. RasaqBoi

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    Pretty much!
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    If missing the playoffs means we fire Rick and BOB then it's good in the long term.
     
  17. RasaqBoi

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    He won't fire both.

    I say he gets rid of Smith. Aka promotes him to some made up title.
     
  18. HillBoy

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    OK, I kinda understand your logic here so let's look at things your way. Let's say they win the division at 6-10 and get to host a playoff game. Regardless of the outcome, it's your contention that BoB should still be fired. Fine, McNair shows BoB the door. You will have gone from a coach who took you to the playoffs to an unknown situation at head coach. Said coach will undoubtedly want to bring in his coaches to implement his system so you are basically back to last year. Only now the bar is much higher than 2-14 and said coach had better get this team back to the playoffs or there will be hell to pay. Joe Fan just doesn't think your way. Joe Fan only wants results and results mean making the playoffs. Anything less will be viewed as a huge step back and will become a PR mess for the Texans. I can see it now: "We went from a coach who took us to the playoffs for this expletive ______ (fill in the blank)! Be advised that if you do this it could have dire circumstances and will open McNair up to a ton of what-ifs and vitriol from the fans. Just saying.
     
  19. HillBoy

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    Yeah. All I'm saying is that the Texans have a legit shot at making the division as they have the most complete team in the AFC South in spite of all its flaws. No matter what the record is starting the playoffs it's sudden death and won-loss records don't matter. I'm tired of all this doom and gloom and all the threads looking forward to the draft and which college QB to roll the dice on. Every year it's like this here. It's way past time for Houston football fans to have something good come their way. And I, for one, would love to see Reliant Stadium filled to rafters for a home playoff game. I think the Houston fans deserve that at the very least.
     
  20. Major

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    Yes, you fire someone based on what you want to happen next year, not the previous one. If they didn't think the coach was the right coach for next year, then making the playoffs has no impact on that. There's no reason to keep a coach they think sucks just because he fluked into a playoff game because the rest of the division was wretched.

    The same is true the other way around. If they think BOB is the right coach for the team going forward, they should keep him despite a bad record.

    Picking coaches based on avoiding bad PR or avoiding "what ifs" is the essence of terrible management. This is the kind of leadership that creates a dumpster fire like the Texans.

    The Astros are the perfect example of the opposite. They knew burning the whole team down was the best way to get to where they wanted to be. They accepted that fans would be angry and took the heat and made no attempt to placate people in the interim - they made all the right decisions in the best interests of the team rather than for PR purposes. As a result, they became really good and are now a team the town has rallied around and has an amazingly bright future.
     

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