I don't like the Nowitzki comparison; from the little I've seen of him, I'd say he's more of an Arvydas Sabonis type player... And like apostolic, I don't care what the "positions" are defined as. The NBA nowadays is more about filling roles than filling positions. I too would prefer a more classic definition of all the positions, but you can't be like JVG and refuse to adjust to the new NBA. The new NBA has freaking Boris Diaw playing center. Does that mean he's going to be a post presence? No, but he fills a role for the Suns. Much in the same way, I think if we can fill our need ROLES and not necessarily worry about where it comes from position wise, we do it. If our PF can shoot 3s, then sign me up. If our 2 guard is our 2nd defensive stalwart, then fine, let's sign him up. As long as we can fill the holes we have on our roster talent-wise or skill-wise, do it. Andrea can do that, IMHO, in as little as 2-3 years. Granted he's probably going to be a project, but I wouldn't mind throwing him into the fire and seeing how he does...
Yes-- a fever-induced hallulcination. How is the guy in the clips dribbling and driving and hitting rainbow jumpers in any way like Sabonis? Sabonis was a stiff with nifty passing and a couple of decent moves in the post.
The NBA Sabonis was a shadow of his younger self. Many many people say we never got to see the real player over here because of his knee problems. I don't like the comparison because Sabonis was a center in every sense of the word while Bargnani is in no way a center.
I found the same things interesting about Bagnani. One can not make much from just highlight reels but his shot blocking ability makes him a little odd imho. It seems like he can shoot better than AK though. I cannot think of any European player that has shown a knack of blocking shots save fotr AK47 and Darko. Maybe it is the Italian in the lad. The question I have is this - will he be able to make the combine in Chicago as well as individual workouts? If he is a fake, that is when we will know. P.S. Did anyone else notice Tiago Splitter in one of those videos? Can the guys ever put on weight? He has been on the radar for about two years now and it seems like his stock could be falling now.
I just disagree entirely. A) Horace played with the Bulls. Can anyone remember what ELSE they had inside during their first run? Otis would've put up better numbers probably without Hakeem grabbing all those rebounds and scoring all those points. B) Who did Horace Grant ever get traded for? Certainly never Clyde Drexler.
Well sure but nobody ever saw Sabonis do the things this kid does in this short video clip. I'm sure that Sabonis (like everyone) could move better when they were younger, but I don't see him putting the ball on the floor and slicing to the iron or coming off picks and launching rainbow jumpers. They play different positions because they have differing size and skill-sets.
ive actually seen old videos of the guy and yes he did those things. (im not being rude or anything but yeah ive actually seen him in old videos)
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=QHhnDBlBMEE&search=sabonis he was "slicing to the iron" even when he was with the blazers and hitting 3's im sure he was a bit more athletic in his 20's.
95% of those plays highlighted took place in the paint but, yeah, he was a lot more athletic at one point. He can be on my team ANYTIME.
Thanks for posting that. Sabas is one of my all-time favorite players. Coincidentally, he's also No. 11.
It looks like the guy has a good jump shot, can block some shots, but can't finish around the ring. He is not an inside force for sure. I don't see him as a PF, his position would be SF, but if he can't defend SF, that would be a problem.
some more bargnani clips Bargnani offensive rebound (vs. Napoli 2006) http://rapidshare.de/files/16239359/Andrea_Bargnani_offensive_rebound.avi.html Bargnani reverse dunk (vs Milano 2005) http://rapidshare.de/files/16240200/Andrea_Bargnani_Reverse_Dunk___Foul.avi.html Bargnani gets his dunk-layup blocked http://195.56.77.209/top5/3-10649-dsl.wmv Here's a clip of Bargnani's 25 points against Rome earlier this season (october 2005). http://rapidshare.de/files/7328254/MagoBargnani.avi.html
man this guys has mass and height when he gets here and bulks up, gains muscle he is going to be killer
Sweet. November Rain. I remember when Rasheed threw a towel at Sabonis. Rasheed is an idiot. No respect.
The clip of his 25 points was impressive. I counted 6 long jumpers, 3 drives to the hoop and 1 back to the basket "spin move" (more like a travel). Of the top 5-6 talked about in the draft, this guy looks like the best outside shooter except for Morrison.
Maybe Bargnani won't turn out to be a star, but his skill level seems higher than Nachbar and Turkcan. I think he could turn out to be as good as Radmanovich on offense or better along with decent shot blocking ability after some time.