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Andre Johnson

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Uprising, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. Hey Now!

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    awesome!

    arizona QBs threw the ball 627 times last year; houston 554 - a difference of 73 more pass attempts.

    texan QBs completed 66.1% of their passes, giving them an additional 48 completions. johnson finished with 20.7% of the texans' completions last year, giving him an additional 10 catches...

    which pushes his TD total from 8 to.............. (drum roll, please): 8.7. fitzgerald had 12; boldin had 11 (and missed 4 games).

    final verdict: false!
     
  2. The_Yoyo

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    andre johnson??? pffft classic homerism

    give me joey galloway anyday of the week





    where are talking about beat boxing right?



    if not i go with moes I think Fitz is a bit better but both are the top receivers in the league
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    Yeah ric, I did the math in my head. (Even put it in my post, which you ignored I guess)

    But the law of averages comes in to play as well.

    You're doing one year only... think about it stretched over several years where TD numbers tend to normalize.

    What is up with people and total d*ckheaded responses in here?

    Must be cranky waiting for football to get started.
     
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  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Calvin Johnson is the best.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    I am aware of this.... although, me being a Texans fan, I can see how you thought I wasn't.

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    Seriously, I would love to see AJ and the Texans get more TD's this year. If they can improve on that yardage per game/TD's per game discrepancy, this team is going to be fun to watch. I swear, there were times last year when I thought Kubiak was just going to start kicking FG's on 1st down once we got inside the 20...
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    And who decided touchdowns were the end-all-be-all of WR stats?
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    I think leadership and heart should be given more weight.
     
  8. rezdawg

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    And here is how my iPhone currently looks...

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  9. msn

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    No one "decided TDs were the be-all-end-all in judging a WR". It's just a glaring "less-than" in his game compared to the other elite WR.

    This is a great week, peeps! NFL is back!

    Now, noone answered my question from page 1, so I'm gonna repeat. Because I want to hear the response:

    What is the difference in percentage of run plays versus pass plays employed in the red zone by Arizona and by Houston?

    Cause, it would *seem* relevant to the discussion.
     
  10. msn

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    You forgot "fireiness".

    Come on man, you're letting me down!
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    I didn't see Mr. Johnson dropping a lot of balls in the endzone, but maybe that is just me and my *apparent* homerism.

    I think catches and YAC are good indicators really.

    TDs come and TDs go.

    Ideally you want your RBs getting the touchdowns... which often means that you're doing your job in the red zone more effectively (which we are teh suck at).
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    That's awesome.

    Love the logo as the slider.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Oh yeah, forgot about that. Absolutely key.

    In response to your question, wouldn't the Texans throw more if Andre was better in the redzone? I mean, teams that have Moss will throw a lot more in the red zone because he's so darn good at catching TDs.
     
  14. msn

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    Interesting.

    Do those teams have enough of a short-yardage running threat to keep the D honest?

    HOWEVER: I'm starting to feel like I'm apologizing for David Carr all over again here. (and NO, that is NOT a comparison between the two; only between the lines of reasoning)

    I think AJ needs to catch more TDs to step into that next level of eliteness.
     
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    You would think. Part of the problem is the coaching staff (Kubiak) tends to go conservative/r****d in the red zone. Hopefully Shanahan breaks them of that. Another part of it is that when they double Dre in the red zone, it is harder for the other receivers/TE to find space because the field is so much shorter, and we don't have another guy that we can "just throw it up" too like Anquan Boldin on the other side.
     
  16. moestavern19

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    I'm cranky as **** today brah, 10 days and counting now without internet and cable TV, still another week to go.
    :mad: :(
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.


    Hey.






















    No need to use the B word.
     
  18. JayZ750

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    I think it had less to do with the coaching staff going full r****d and more to do with the fact that their short yardage running game was so non-existent. They weren't exactly awesome on third and shorts during drive, either. The offense really really really should be a solid goal-line type rusher away from being a dominant offense in all aspects, like the Cardinals. They have the receivers, quarterback, tight end and and smaller feature back. Short yardage back combined with fewer turnovers makes the offense great.

    That said, there were times last year where even with their deficiencies, you were scratching your head on play selection.

    Absolutely. I just think that if worse comes to worse, and Johnson - and therefor the team - never become a great scoring offense, and another 5 years down the road he's coming to the end of his career, I'm more likely to place the majority of the blame on the system than on Johnson. He has all the tools and seems to utilize them in the red zone and scoring situations as much as in other situations. He's not dropping passes in the end zone, failing to break tackles that should spring him for a TD, etc. The plays just aren't there to be made so far.

    Hopefully, this year that changes.

    That said, it's hard to see how anyone could place Andre above Larry definitively for either their career or currently, before the season starts. At best, you can say their even, but in more likelihood it is 1A and 1B right now in Larry's favor. More TD, more yards per catch. I'd happily take 19 fewer catches from Andre in exchange for 4 more TD receptions.
     
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    short sighted fans who like sparkley things. :D
     
  20. doboyz

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    6 of Fitzgeralds TD's were in games that Boldin missed. Just sayin'.
     

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