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Anderson is killing us...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets4lf, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Easy

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    I stopped reading your post after this paragraph.

    You are either arguing for the sake of arguing or you are just incapable of seeing the logic. Why is point scoring the ONLY indicator of whether a player is better? So you rank players' values by the PPG list? If you are so simple minded about basketball, I don't see how this conversation can go on.

    Again, you think scoring more is an indicator of more effort and vice versa? The team is not just Harden and Anderson. There are Paul, Gordon, and Capela. Their combined offensive production is a lot more than last season. Why do you want Anderson to shoot more when the whole offense is so much better?

    That said, I do agree with some posters that say that Anderson is too hesitant in shooting. He should not have passed up some open shots. That's my criticism of him.
    LOL. If Morey expected Anderson to be a star, he should be fired. That's not on Anderson. That's on Morey. But I don't think Morey is that stupid. Yes, I blame him for overpaying Anderson. But I can kind of understand the FA market at that time.

    So you do agree with me that the contract is on Morey, right?
     
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  2. Vivi

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    Miami won't trade James Johnson for Anderson though
     
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  3. D-rock

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    I think Hornets would unfortunately.
     
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    so he basically SUCKS at the only thing he's good at and why he's here for the contract he got and it's not his fault but Morey's?
     
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    The Hornets say no. Every time.
     
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  7. Realjad

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    I think I know why Anderson shoots better when Paul gives him the ball

    Paul throws the ball directly to Anderson, it's a set shot.

    When Harden passes to Anderson, he passing leading him into something. I think it's because Harden and Ariza both like their passes leading into a shot.

    Harden needs to stop giving leading passes to Anderson and just place it in his center, because as we see when Paul does that, his percentage is much higher.
     
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  8. Codman

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    Anderson isn't killing us. We're not playing to Ry's strengths whatsoever. Sure, we get him some looks, but in my view, he's launching shots that, while within his range, are not nearly as efficient as they could be.

    I agree with the sentiment that CP3 sets up Ry the best, and I believe that some stats prove that to be the case. However, Ry would be scoring more, both home and away, if we gave him a better variety of looks.

    Although the Rox offense is not designed for many jumpers, we've seen times where CP3 takes them, or when James posts a weaker defender up.

    Ryan needs the same. When he was a Bird, he scored from the post, with those fade-away //poor man's Dirk shots, off one foot. He needs a couple of those, ALONG with the threes. Take away criticism of his contract for a moment and consider what helps career sharp shooters...they need spacing, repetition, variety and on the psychological side of things, they need to feel a great deal of confidence from teammates, BASED on their shots. So, while Ryan will hit those 3s from, hell, nearly half-court, our team seems to go away from him when he's not nailing 3s.

    This is not intentional, but if you've played, there are times where you feel more comfortable passing the ball off to a guy who is shooting well. I'll notice James being being triple-teamed with Ry wide open, but he'll sometimes go to, say, Trevor instead. Or, on one of our semi-fast breaks, Ry will be open for an easy jumper/layup, but the handler will pass towards the three-ball. Again, it's not an intentional choice (usually), but as a consequence, Ryan definitely FEELS it.

    If you watch him closely, Ry will stop shooting the wide open three, or he'll hesitate for too long, partially because he's missed a few long bombs, but also because he recognizes his teammates going towards other guys to take the shots. It's a cause and effect type of relationship.

    In my eyes, you can improve Ryan's efficiency on the court with a few, simple tweaks. Give him a couple of post ups when warranted, let him up-fake the three for something closer once in a while, and most importantly, keep going to him, regardless of if he's missing shots. We don't stop feeding CP3, Trev, James etc if they're off. Heck, we let EGO shoot at will, and if he's cold, eventually, the ball starts to go in, and you can see how his confidence to take shots goes up. We need Ryan Anderson to be ready to take some crunch time shots.

    For however long he's here, the Rockets might as well play Ryan to his abilities. At the moment, we've really gone away from a great deal of skill set; Fly Ry can do more than shoot the long ball. Look at the tapes with former teams. Ryan used to be an awesome rebounder, even on the offensive end. Why? Because he was able to take some shots in the paint (fade-aways, etc).

    For as much freedom as our guys have, there must be a way to incorporate a couple of different looks for Ryan.

    /Rant

    /Merry Christmas/HappyHolidays

    Much Love,

    Cod
     
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  9. Nook

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    The Rockets are not trading Ryan Anderson and there is no one on the Roster to take his minutes at PF.

    The Rockets need to work to Anderson's strength, which is shooting the ball, stretching the court and defending within a unified system.

    Anderson needs to shoot the ball more, and the Rockets need to get him more open looks and the occasional post up if necessary.

    He is taking 8 shots a game, even though he is shooting 40% from 3 and 55% inside.

    Someone 6'10" with his range and accuracy should be taking 8-9 threes a night. He typically shoots a higher % on threes when he takes more as well. He has shot anywhere from 39% to 41% when he shoots more from 3.

    Anderson isn't going to suddenly make less money, and he isn't suddenly going to be Capela off the PNR. We can sit here and complain he doesn't get 10 boards a game or block shots. None of that is ever going to change. What CAN make him more valuable is working in open shots for him. If he gets 8-9 three point shots and another 1-2 post ups a game; he will be more valuable.

    Eight shots a game isn't going to cut it. If he goes from 8 to 12 shots a night; he will be getting 15 points and 6 rebounds in 28 minutes a night. That is very good production. The value also goes beyond the raw numbers because it will also open up more space for Harden and Paul and less of the perimeter double and triples Harden has seen since the Paul injury.
     
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  10. Rocket River

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    i am more pissed about the passed up shots and hesitation than anything.

    if he had better handles I would not mind a hard drives

    Rocket River
     
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    Those are all bad lol but I’d take Johnson, Thompson and Bazemore over Anderson
     
  12. riko

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    He has literally stopped looking for his initial looks and just looks dazed and confused out there
     
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    Rockets need to run more pick and pops for Ryno. He's got a quick release and could do some damage 15-20' out.
     
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    If Chicago decides that Mirotic-Portis isn't the right 1-2 punch at PF, I'd offer them Ryno and a 2nd for Mirotic and filler (Pondexter). Slightly worse shooter but Nikola can actually create off the dribble when a defense closes out on him.

    May not be the best time since Mirotic and Chicago are rolling right now, but if they start slumping, they may want to remove any potential source of drama/weak jaws
     
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    He's got a quick release but he won't pull the trigger if someone is within 3 feet of him.
     
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    Happy Holidays! A great New Year!

    Ryno needs the Chauncey Billups Gene bad!

    Agreed. We should milk him in the Post more until we give up on him.
     
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    We should cheer for Ryno instead of badmouthing him. You can tell that he wants to help the team, but something is wrong with his confidence. Coach and James need to encourage him to take these open shots. Just keep launching them!
     
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    Yeah lets turn the world upside down to make a guy that makes $20 million a year more comfortable and confident. Rockets can try but I'm not giving Anderson a pass ultimately he has to make shots under pressure and right now make shots period. He has to own it and open his mouth get more aggressive if he's not getting the type of rhythm shots that would make him more valuable.
     
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    Mirotic is the sole reason Chicago has won 6 of there last 8 games. No way they trade him for Ryno. He can net them a lot more then Ryno
     
  20. dobro1229

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    If the Rockets couldn't move Anderson in a deal this Summer when Carmelo ONLY had the Rockets on his list, and every team in the league was being pressured to trade for him, then they sure as hell wont be able to move him now.

    I think you save your draft picks to only move him this Summer if a Lebron type wants to come here and you have to bite the bullet to move him.

    However.... I do think he needs to be moved to the bench. The Rockets need a more stable PF type in there with either Capela or Nene to start the game even if it doesn't give the offense the juice it needs to go on massive runs like it could "potentially" go on with Anderson lighting it up when he does get hot.

    No... I don't think Zhou Qi is ready yet, but maybe next year. I think you need a solid veteran defensive presence like a Taj Gibson. Set the tone defensively, and on the boards and bring Ryno off the bench. Also get PJ back to doing what he does best, which is disrupting the best wing scorer on the opposing team. I remember what PJ was able to do to Harden back in the day that few defenders could. Against the Warriors, & co. you need his wing defense, at least until Mbah a Moute gets back.
     

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