The idiot in blue is the one who started it. He stomped him a couple of times and took off running somewhere. I'm not sure if he has more seniority over the other officers, but monkey see monkey do. He deserves the largest sentence.
All of the things he did were bad. This is why we have jails. He will be going there for a long time. The judge or the jury determines the punishment. I don't make the rules, but I follow them. When I see cops try to be above the law it makes the system look corrupt. They fail to set good examples for the rest of society, and they make other cops look bad as well.
There is no such thing as an automatic death penaly violation anywhere. Shooting a police officer is capital murder in Texas, but just because you are convicted of capital murder doesn't mean you automatically get the death penalty - just ask Juan Quintero. Police officers are considered a special class and they do get added protection, that isn't disputed. If you use your fist and cause pain against a cop you CAN be charged with Assault on a Peace Officer (a third degree felony in Texas) whereas the same assault on a civillian would be a Class A Misdemeanor. But what this fails to realize is the number of times cops get assaulted where the crook isn't charged with a felony. Most DAs usually charge the guy with a Class A resisting arrest and reserve the felony for more eggregious attacks.
That's the thing, he won't go for a long time. Many of these home invaders get out sooner rather than later and just go commit some other crime. It is a cycle with these punks. Maybe putting some fear in them will actually stop them.
So work to fix the system. Right now, the law states what the officers did were wrong. Why is it OK for them to break the law just because somebody else did?
That is one of the most idiotic things I've read on here. Because you don't feel they serve enough time it should be ok for the police to beat them?
Um no, I am saying I feel no sympathy for any crook, rapist, murder, thief, robber whatever. They do not care of who they hurt, so I do not care if those low life scums get a beating. I don't see how anyone can stand up for a criminal. The guy could have done this again the next day and if someone was home, he could have injured or worse killed them so he can go to the pawn shop and get $300 bucks for some shoes or drugs. Ridiculous how anyone defends these guys, especially this joke Quanell X.
I stand up for anybody's rights regardless whether I agree with their actions. I don't really like or agree with the KKK's views but they have a right to gather and say what they wish. I don't agree with the guy's actions but he has the right to a trial by jury before being punished.
KKK is just as bad as these crooks, but why did the kid run away? He already knew he did something wrong, a majority of the people that commit crimes do not care, they want to take hard working people's valuables because they are too lazy to go to school or get a job. They will keep doing this until there are stricter penalties, something needs to be done, and I am fine with teaching the punk a lesson, not giving him a slap on the wrist and the chance to go out and invade another innocent families home. I chose innocent citizens over crime committing people any day
The officers were in the wrong and they deserve to be punished. Having said that, if you don't want to catch a beating don't run from the cops.
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/02/...ider-in-the-police-beating-of-16-year-old-ch/ The video-taped beating of 16-year old Chad Holley had me fuming. It's one thing when police use excessive force, but this video was startling for at least a couple of reasons. First, the kid is only 16-years old, and kids that age don't deserve this kind of treatment. While he appears to be a viable suspect for burglary (he was convicted of his crime), the truth is that we must move beyond a society that believes that any child who makes a mistake is beyond redemption. Black children tend to be the ones most likely to be sentenced as adults, and those kids who are lost at an early age can be thrown to the wolves as if they are worthless commodities with abolutely no long-term potential value. Secondly, it appears on the video that Holley does nothing to warrant any form of physical retaliation by officers. He has his hands behind his back and surrenders to the police immediately when they surround him. Yes, Holley might have broken the law, but police officers should not be the judge and jury of this young man, as well as the ones to administer his (cruel and unusual) punishment. Here are a couple of other things to consider as the nation thinks about the Chad Holley beating by police: 1) Police abuse is not simply a black-white issue. At least one of the officers indicted is African American, and police officer behavior can be more of a gang-like loyalty to the "blue line" than an interest in trying to hurt people of color. But given that the job of police is to basically protect the rich from the poor, African Americans are more likely than whites to be caught in the grips of police abuses of authority. So, while the problem of police brutality is more of an economic and authority-based phenomenon than a racial one, race is so highly correlated with wealth and power that it continues to be a significant factor. 2) The Houston Police Department and the criminal justice system in the state of Texas need to be completely overhauled. In the book "Texas Tough, the Rise of America's Prison Empire," Professor Robert Perkinson lays out a set of facts to show clearly that Texas a) has the worst incarceration pattern in the world and b) works harder than any other state to incarcerate African Americans. In fact, the Texas prison system is the most obvious remnant of slavery in the entire United States. These abuses by the Texas justice system start in the streets, where black men are more likely to be stopped, searched, arrested and incarcerated than any other group of people. The police shooting of baseball player Robert Tolan was a perfect case in point, as Tolan was stopped by officers in front of his mother's house (in a middle class neighborhood) after the police officers followed him and entered the wrong license plate into their system. Tolan was shot when the officer slammed his mother against the garage door (as she came out to see what was going on) and her son moved to help her. Tolan did nothing wrong, and in spite of all evidence that Robert and his family were law-abiding citizens, the mayor of the town attempted to insist that the officers had not broken the law. So, the attitude of racial oppression within the state of Texas is more readily reflected in the despicable corruption of its criminal justice system. My father was a police official for over 25 years, so I've had a chance to witness both good and bad police work up close. During this period, I also saw that there are quite a few police officers who deeply desire to do what is right for their families, their departments and the community. They are as hurt as the rest of us when police abuse is uncovered, and don't deserve to be attacked every time a suspect is shot or physically injured. Being a police officer is a difficult and dangerous job, and being too weak and hyper-sensitive can get you killed by those who carry weapons in our gun-totting society. At the same time, police abuse is rampant in cities across the country. Our society is one where we presume that anyone who's been arrested or incarcerated is undeserving of human rights or meaningful protections under the law. We believe the word of a police officer over anyone in their custody, which has opened the door to one horrific civil rights violation after another. Cases such as that of Terry Harrington, a man who spent 25-years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, are only the tip of the iceberg. For every case that is unearthed, there are literally hundreds of others that we haven't committed the resources to thoroughly investigating. The same kinds of officers who are quick to beat an unarmed 16-year old boy are the ones who might plant drugs on a suspect, present a fabricated story to the jury or torture a suspect to force him to confess to a crime that he didn't commit. The Chad Holley beating should be an opportunity for the city of Houston to clean out it's police department the same way the LAPD was dealt with after the beating of Rodney King. It is rare that the nation has the opportunity to see police brutality at its worst, with a young kid being beaten after clearly surrendering to cops. There's nothing that the defense attorneys can say to explain this one away, and that is likely the reason they were working so hard to keep the tape from being presented to the public. Those who thirst for equity within the Houston criminal justice system deserve credit for helping the truth come to light (namely activist Quanell X, who fought to get a copy of the tape to the public), and Chad Holley's suffering will not be in vain. It is also my greatest hope that Chad will receive the guidance he needs so that he will stop robbing other people and use his talents for a more productive purpose. The best way to keep from being abused by the criminal justice system is to stay away from it in the first place, but the system must be confronted nonetheless.
Because we believe he should get a ******* trial to determine if he is a criminal before he is punished? The hell? Innocent until proven guilty by court of law is a right that many brave Americans have died to defend. Now it's just a creedo supported by "criminal lovers"? And I'm just as pissed that those jackoff cops wasted taxpayer money by negligently running their cars into each other for no earthy reason, then spending an insane amount of manpower and time beating the sh-t out of a defenseless and submissive kid. We have a legal system set up to be judge, jury, and executioner. We don't need your fat, roided-up, overcompensating asses to do anything but apprehend the suspect. Not wanting the police to indiscriminately beat the sh-t out of suspects and actually believing they should uphold the ideals of our legal system = "fascination and love for criminals and low lives." Ok. The f--k? Are you high?
Since when is a suspect the equivalent of a convicted criminal? The ridiculous thing is no here has stood up for the suspected criminal. They have stood up against the extrajudicial violence the officers used on the suspect. There's a huge difference between the two.
My rule of thumb is to not kick anybody who's in the fetal position. I think that's pretty reasonable.
Sweet! I didn't know that O'Shea Jackson was a Rocket fan and posted on this BBS! I'll be looking forward to more of his posts here in the future!
Condemning someone who is accused of a crime is different than condemning someone who has been convicted of a crime. There's a difference called due process.
And what happens when innocent people get mistaken for suspected criminals? Have we already forgotten about the kid in Bellaire who was shot while handcuffed because the police mistook him for a car thief?
On a side note, I can't stand the TSA. My dad just got back from Syria and Iraq. Flew Dubai to Houston on Emirates. The flight comes in at 9. He doesn't get out until 1 pm. All over a prayer book. Effin ignorant idiots.
What the hell is wrong with some of yall people? Yall are happy to see someone get beat like that? Sure he committed a crime (robbery), ran for it, and got caught. The dude surrendered, with his hands up on the ground, and like a million cops surround and kick him multiple times, how is that right?
