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And people wonder why I don't trust the police

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rockbox, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. PointForward

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    I have never seen a F***ing society that loves and respects criminals as much as this one does. So we completely ignore the fact that this F***cker robbed a house, put people's lives in danger and terrorized them, ran away from the police, made them chase him and spend thousands of our hard earned tax dollars trying to get him, and then once they caught up with him and gave him what he deserves we have people talking $H!t about the police?

    Never understood the fascination and love for criminals and low lives in this country. Republicans might be bat$h!t insane on every issue in this country, but at least they are for treating CRIMINALS for what they are, effing CRIMINALS.

    What's the worse case scenario for someone who attempts a home robbery? he goes to jail, lives happily there and gets free food and shelter for twenty some years. That doesn't scream "oh $h!t I better not rob a house!", it makes him say "rob it and hope for the best, because i don't give a crap if I go to jail". A good ass kicking like this one, however, goes a long way telling future criminals NOT to do that $H!t. I'd go as far as saying that an asskicking should be required by law for every criminal they catch.
     
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  2. Pete Chilcutt

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    I agree with almost everything you said.

    Criminals are just that criminals, I do not see why people feel bad for them after what they put innocent citizens through. They do not care about anyone but themselves, all to make a quick buck at a local pawn shop or on the streets. These guys deserve to rot in prison, not get free passes and blame it that they are young, most of these criminals will be life long threats if we allow them to roam the streets and get off scotch free from any wrongdoings.
     
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  3. rtsy

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    Parents, community and the black education disaster


    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700106246/Parents-community-and-the-black-education-disaster.html

    In my "Black Education Disaster" column (12/22/10), I presented National Assessment of Educational Progress test data that demonstrated that an average black high school graduate had a level of reading, writing and math proficiency of a white seventh- or eighth-grader. The public education establishment bears part of the responsibility for this disaster, but a greater portion is borne by black students and their parents, many of whom who are alien and hostile to the education process.

    Let's look at the education environment in many schools and ask how conducive it is to the education process. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, nationally during 2007-2008, more than 145,000 teachers were physically attacked. Six percent of big-city schools report verbal abuse of teachers and 18 percent report non-verbal disrespect for teachers.

    An earlier NCES study found that 18 percent of the nation's schools accounted for 75 percent of the reported incidents of violence, and 6.6 percent accounted for 50 percent. So far as serious violence, murder and rapes, 1.9 percent of schools reported 50 percent of the incidents. The preponderance of school violence occurs in big-city schools attended by black students.

    What's the solution? Violence, weapons-carrying, gang activity and student or teacher intimidation should not be tolerated. Students engaging in such activity should be summarily expelled.

    Some might worry about the plight of expelled students. I think we should have greater concern for those students whose education is made impossible by thugs and the impossible learning environment they create.

    Another part of the black education disaster has to do with the home environment. More than 70 percent of black children are born to unwedded mothers, who are often themselves born to unwedded mothers. Today's level of female-headed households is new in black history. Until the 1950s, almost 80 percent of black children lived in two-parent households, as opposed to today's 35 percent.

    Often, these unwedded mothers have poor parenting skills and are indifferent, and sometimes hostile, to their children's education. The resulting poorly behaving students should not be permitted to sabotage the education of students whose parents are supportive of the education process.

    At the minimum, a mechanism such as tuition tax credit or educational voucher ought to be available to allow parents and children who care to opt out of failing schools. Some people take the position that we should repair not abandon failing schools. That's a vision that differs little from one that says that no black child's education should be improved unless we can improve the education of all black children.

    What needs to be done is not rocket science. Our black ancestors, just two, three, four generations out of slavery, would not have tolerated school behavior that's all but routine today. The fact that the behavior of many black students has become acceptable and made excuses for is no less than a gross betrayal of sacrifices our ancestors made to create today's opportunities.

    Some of today's black political leadership is around my age, 75, such as Reps. Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, John Conyers, former Virginia governor Douglas Wilder, Jesse Jackson and many others. Forget that they are liberal Democrats but ask them whether their parents, kin or neighbors would have tolerated children cursing to, or in the presence of, teachers and other adults. Ask them what their parents would have done had they assaulted an adult or teacher. Ask whether their parents would have accepted the grossly disrespectful behavior seen among many black youngsters on the streets and other public places using foul language and racial epithets. Then ask why should today's blacks tolerate something our ancestors would not.

    The sorry and tragic state of black education is not going to be turned around until there's a change in what's acceptable and unacceptable behavior by young people. The bulk of that change has to come from within the black community.

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    Crime Among Our People

    [or a revolutionary proposal for regenerating Community]

    By Grace Lee Boggs - 1972

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    How did all this become so normal and natural When did it begin? How long can we tolerate it and keep our sense of humanity? Do we really oppose crime any more? And if we do, is there anything we can actually do about it in our neighborhoods – or must we just give up?

    From junkies to pimps, people use the excuse that black people must “do their own thing” to “survive” in “the man’s” system, justifying the worst kind of crime in the name of the black struggle.

    http://www.nathanielturner.com/crimeamongourpeople.htm
     
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  4. Bobblehead

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    As soon as that punk committed a crime..he lost what most of us have..Civil Rights. Did he deserve the asskicking he got? Maybe yes...maybe no. But he DOES not have the same civil rights as you and I.
    Heck....maybe he will think twice next time he decides to rob someone.
    I know I will not recveive a butt kicking like that in my lifetime because I DON'T ROB PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

    And Qanel X or whatever the heck he calls himself needs to go away. He's more trouble than help....not to mention the guys really have a big fat head....he's weird looking.
     
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  5. plcmts17

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    Hell yeah!!! I wish they would have done the same to Bernie Madoff :mad: The sleazeball took people's entire fortune, every last dime. Robbed them of all the hard earned money they made working for years and years. We are talking MILLIONS of dollars!!! Where the hell was his beatdown? If ANY CRIMINAL ever deserved to get beaten down, it was Madoff!!!

    But thankfully republicans treat people like Madoff and their ilk like criminals :rolleyes:

    Just to repeat what others have said for those of you dim enough not to understand. The kid deserves to be in jail for what he did and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. No one is excusing his actions.

    But if you really believe what you say, let's treat all criminals equally and have the cops beat the ever living sense out of them. Let's start with Tom Delay, hell I will even help the cops if they want.
     
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  6. Rocket River

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    Interesting . . . :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :mad: :eek:

    Rocket River
     
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    Tonic for his ass!
     
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  8. ubigred

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    No , just a sane person.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    That is far from the 'worst case scenario'.
     
  10. Serg300

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    Reminds me of this...Wut up partna!

    <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qUp-EwdKh_E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    What's far more disappointing is that some Americans don't really believe in the rule of law, and think it's OK for police to violate the law. Police beating a suspect who has given up and not been proven guilty should be fired and arrested.

    In the U.S. you are innocent until proven guilty. I believe in that system. In the U.S. it is illegal for the police to use brutal force on a suspect who is compliant and has surrendered. I believe in that system to.

    I love this nation, and believe we are a better nation when we actually follow are own laws, and hold ourselves to a higher standard.

    I'm sorry not everyone shares the same love for the USA that I do.
     
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  12. FranchiseBlade

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    They don't have to respect him, only not beat him after he surrendered. They can disrespect him if they really wish, but they can't beat him. If he is guilty of breaking the law and robbing a home, he deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law. That's what criminals deserve.

    If the police broke the law by beating a defenseless man, they deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    These the same folx that would b*tch and Moan when other countries are in violation.

    I wonder If after Tiananmen Square .. they said THE PROTESTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BREAKING THE LAW!!

    Rocket River
     
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  14. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Jail isn't a happy place. I work there.

    1. It's boring. Mind numbingly boring.
    2. It's dangerous.
    3. There are no women. Fill in the blanks.
    4. It's dirty and cramped. And cold in the winter, hot in the summer.
    5. The food sucks. (well, I've never eaten it. I was offered some on my first day, but after the folks came back from the cafeteria talking about 'hair in their fish cubes', I passed from then on).
    6. Your peers are psychotic idiots. They're convicted felons. Forget about intelligent conversation.
    7. There's no privacy. A guard tells you to pick your nutsack up for a spot inspection, you have to do it, right there.
    8. You're less than a person if you're an offender. I personally don't communicate at all with these guys. I never know what they're in for, so I don't take chances. That's gotta suck for them.

    I'd rather get the crap kicked out of me on a daily basis than go to jail

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    These cops had no right to beat this kid. If they needed to throw a punch or kick to subdue him, that's different.

    OTOH, if the video was of the enraged business owner/home owner beating the crap out him, I have no problem with that. You break into my house, it's personal. It shouldn't be personal with cops. It's their job.
     
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  15. esteban

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    They should have beaten the crap out of that hogface Quanel X, I can't stand that fake ass agent provocateur and race baiter!
     
  16. Daedalus

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    i'm all for the cops kicking ass

    but


    ...what if they had the wrong dude?
     
  17. pacman0590

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    stupid..

    they got in trouble, this isn't a civilian's opinion, it's truth, that video is terrible



    i mean come on the guys getting his head stomped in..
     
  18. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    That's what Thadeus said.

     
  19. Icehouse

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    I guess the beatdown is cool cuz cops get the right suspect 100% of the time....
     
  20. RickRock713

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    repped
     

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