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And now you tell me why Jalen green can’t be better than Edwards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jorge M Gutierrez, Feb 22, 2025.

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  1. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    How many players in history have put up 27/5/5 on 60% TS in the playoffs? I checked and Luka, lebron, and jordan are below that level. Can't be a long list.
     
  2. Stephen_A

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    Yes you have embarrassed yourself throwing a fit. You also cannot comprehend written language
     
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    But hes had some disappointing playoff games before hes even reached his prime!

    Playoff numbers that match all time great Steph Curry? I laugh at those numbers.

    Sorry! If that’s good enough for you, well your standards are just too low….

    I’m not crazy…you’re crazy….
     
  5. astrosrule

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    Fair enough, and if jalen can go 28/6/6 on over 60 TS and never have a bad game in the playoffs (even though he's already older than any of ant's playoff games), you will look like a fool. Get ready!
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Love this. You don't even have the basic self awareness to realize you are priming yourself up to root against Rocket playoffs success.

    It's so god damn hilarious.
     
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  7. astrosrule

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    You wouldn't take those numbers? crazy
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Hell ya. And I hope he gets them unlike you because apparently you aren't a Rocket fan but a "I told you I'm right" fan.
     
  9. NotTooYoungtoContend

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    I can't believe people are even arguing against this.

    I like Jalen Green and I hope he continues to improve and becomes a winning player on a championship team.

    That said, Anthony Edwards is better in almost every facet of the game-

    better handles
    better at drawing and finishing through contact
    shooting much better from 3 this season
    much better defensively

    My hope is that Jalen will someday become the equivalent of a Tyler Herro or Desmond Bane-level player. A borderline all-star. That would be great.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    The one trait he actually is better at is strength and it's a large gap which accounts like 75% of why he's better. The other 25% is more consistent three point shot especially this season. Dude turned into prime Steph Curry from three which is a cheat code given his elite combo of speed, agility and strength.

    Handles? What the hell are you talking about?

    I don't think Herro or Bane are his ceilings. That's also unhinged. He can easily become a Booker level player.
     
  11. NotTooYoungtoContend

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    I hope that someday someone loves me as much as you love Jalen Green.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    You already got there my dude. Yourself.
     
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    Lmao still bi+ching about it i see. I will show you how stupid you are because you are too lazy to do the work and likely one of those people who only get their news from tik tok. Im glad you brought up Curry. Lmao
     
  14. Stephen_A

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    wilful ignorance
     
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    Imagine thinking you “got” someone with the line “I bet you only get your news from tik tok”

    [​IMG]

    If Jalen Green had the exact same playoff resume as Ant currently does you would be seeking your doctors attention for an erection lasting longer than 4 hours. You would be glazing him to no end calling him one of the great young players in the league. And you would be right to do so. But because it’s Ant and not Jalen you are forced to play this weird game.
     
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  16. astrosrule

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    when did i stop being a rockets fan? i said that post foster i don't care the way i used to, a part of my fandom definitely died that fateful morning but i wouldn't say i'm not a fan
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Ant is naturally more gifted than Green. He's basically Green but with Whitmore strength which is like a cheat code.

    But let's not do these basic one to one comparing numbers game. The context makes Ant's numbers closer than face value box score averages.





    I think you and I agree Green's production level doesn't warrant him being top 10 in the league in both on ball and off ball gravity.

    Ant came into the NBA with one of the greatest floor spacing bigs in league history and competent floor general veteran pgs playing besides him. That makes a huge difference. He didn't play on a team that had horrendous spacing issues.

    Even without KAT watch the last game between Rockets and Wolves and notice how much more space Ant has on clear out isos vs Green. Maybe Ime is to blame for this but there were multiple possessions where Ant had the entire team cleared out to one side of the half court where there wasn't a second defender nearby to cover driving lanes where he truly had a one on one situation.

    When Green plays one on one there rarely is a true clear out. Teammates on the perimeter are to both the left and right of him allowing multiple defenders to say off enough from their assignments to show Green that they got his driving lanes covered still.


    This team has absolutely horrendous spacing issues.
     
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    I think Ant's handles are clearly better than Jalen's currently. Ant definitely turns the ball over plenty but he is far more likely to be doubled than Jalen and the Wolves rely on him to create more often than Jalen Green has to.

    I agree that Ant's strength is the biggest difference between the two. They're both incredibly explosive but Ant is built like a linebacker and Jalen is pretty slight. This allows Ant to absorb contact better, finish better near the rim and makes him a better defensive player.

    This is no small difference as you say. The problem is that Jalen's frame will never be able to hold the mass that Edwards can. Jalen would have to improve above Ant significantly in other ways. As Ant is already shooting elite percentages from 3, I don't really see where Jalen can improve over Ant to make up the difference.

    Also, I didn't say that Jalen's ceiling was Herro or Bane. I said I hoped he'd become that good. Those are top-30 to top-40 NBA players. There are clearly examples of players who improved markedly after the age of 23 and went from good to superstar. Most players don't though.

    It would be cool if Jalen would become one of those exceptions. I think we want the same things for Jalen's future. I don't have your same opinion of him currently though.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Well let's be frank then. Is your pride in being right in a message board more important than your fandom?

    Are you hoping for the best case scenario where Green doesn't get those numbers but the Rockets still go deep in the playoffs?
     
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    I just don't see where you would think Any's handles are better. I've seen Green split doubles teams while going behind the back through his legs, spinning around them, doing I and out crossovers etc. The creativity is at or above Ant's level so the only way you can say Abt is better is ball security with the handle but he data doesn't suggest that.

    So are you saying Ant is more creative with the handle? Because it isn't from a ball security perspective. If so then ya I vehemently disagree.
     
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