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And now you tell me why Jalen green can’t be better than Edwards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jorge M Gutierrez, Feb 22, 2025.

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  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    This doesn't sound like a person who enjoys the ride.


    It takes you single games to change your tune from "we need to trade him" to "he's part of the core".

    These one game fluctuations tell me you are a troll and don't hold sincere opinions about players. No one sincere is this fickle.
     
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  2. GOATuve

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    There's literally nobody who thinks that Jalen Green is better than Anthony Edwards
     
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  3. bustamove

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    in order to win bball games teams need to out score their opponents

    this season Ant either leads his team or 2nd in BPM, Net Rating, and Win Shares - this is what makes Ant special

    while JG is either worst or 4th among starters in terms of BPM, Net Rating, and Win Shares - nothing special about this
     
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    Because he has weaker handles and is nowhere near as strong as Edwards.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    I wouldn't say he has weaker handles. Don't know where oty get that from.

    He's absolutely a lot stronger.
     
  6. Stephen_A

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    but Edwards turns the ball over more. Does not do well under pressure. And i especially highlighted his performance in the playoffs. This is what counts.
     
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  7. Stephen_A

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    bunch of random metrics doesn’t equate real analysis.
     
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    That’s not even the topic of this thread. But one thing I am disappointed in is Rocket fans crowning him a great player or “face of the NBA” which he is neither. This is documented in his playoff performance the past 3 years. He also is turnover prone. But somehow this is all overlooked. Would I want a player who cracks under pressure and does not perform when it matters? I would not. This is how I see Ant. Negates everything in the regular season
     
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    This comes up whenever Edwards is having a mediocre game.
     
  11. jordnnnn

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    Anthony Edward’s playoff career averages(numbers during ages 20-22)

    Points : 27.8
    Rebounds : 6.0
    Assist : 5.0
    Turnover : 2.8


    FG : 47.6
    3FG : 39.1%
    FT : 82.3%
    EFG : 55.3%
    TS% : 60.0%

    If you consider this bad, you pretty much can’t be impressed.
     
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  12. astrosrule

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    Ant has averaged 28/6/5.5 on 60% TS in the playoffs, and every playoff game was when he was younger than Jalen is now. Those seem like reasonably decent performances for a guy who was 20-22 years old.
     
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  13. Tfor3

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    Jalen to the Naismith HOF guaranteed now. The DD has spoken.

    Silly thread imo. Do we have a chance to get Ant in his prime? No. He is not that impressive to me. He couldn’t even beat the injured Rockets recently. But but it’s one game. And?

    Do we have Jalen? Yes. I will root for his success instead of wishing he fail like some Rockets “fans”, to prove themselves right. (not directed to DD)
     
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  14. Stephen_A

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    You obviously did not read what I wrote. I said in critical games.

    Anthony Edwards was in the biggest series of his career against Dallas in the WCF. He shot less than 38% overall first 2 Games and going .286 from 3 game 2. (Wolves down 0-2)

    0% from 3 game 3 while committing over 5 TO’s in critical situations games 3 & 4 and less than 66% on FT games 3-5. (Wolves down 0-3)

    Wait there’s a trend:

    2022 Game 5: 8 for 20 FG .400; 3 for 9 3P .333; 0 ast 1 REB (wolves down 2-3)

    2023 Game 1: 6 for 15 FG .400; 1 for 4 .250 3P; 18 pts. (Wolves down 0-1)
    Game 3: 3 for 11 3P .273 3p% (wolves down 0-3)

    2024 Game 7 vs DEN: 6 for 24 FG .250; 2 for 10 3P .200


     
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  15. Stephen_A

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    nope see above
     
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    I read what you wrote. Like usual it’s pretty dumb ****.

    If you think Ant is not a great player because in his age 20-22 seasons he has come up a little short in some critical playoff games even though his overall averages are absolutely stellar then you have an extreme bias or are just dumb.

    I think you are both.
     
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  17. Stephen_A

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    Obviously you did not since you posted his overall playoff stats in response to my post clearly talking about his inability to lead his team when it matters. Again stick to the topic. I also said he is a good player not great. My standards are not as low as yours. If you accept these playoff performances and that’s good enough for you that’s great. But by no means are these numbers good and indicative of a guy that can lead a team to a championship. If you do not understand this then it’s willful ignorance at this point.
     
  18. jordnnnn

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    More dumb ****.


    Curry career playoff averages

    Points : 27.0
    Rebounds : 5.3
    Assist : 6.2
    Turnover : 3.3

    FG% : 45.3%
    3FG% : 39.7%
    FT% : 88.9%
    EFG : 55.9%
    TS% : 60.6%


    Reminder in case you forgot….

    Anthony Edward’s playoff career averages(numbers during ages 20-22)

    Points : 27.8
    Rebounds : 6.0
    Assist : 5.0
    Turnover : 2.8


    FG : 47.6
    3FG : 39.1%
    FT : 82.3%
    EFG : 55.3%
    TS% : 60.0%
     
  19. Stephen_A

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    So posting the same data again is supposed to help your weak argument? Lol
     
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    Ant through the ripe old age of 22 has almost identical career playoff averages to multiple time champion Steph Curry. Steph Curry has also had many bad playoff games in his career. But his averages are absolutely stellar. Indicative of a player fully capable of leading his team to a championship.

    You are so deep into your devotion to Jalen that you have forced yourself into taking seriously dumb **** stances on other players. It’s embarrassing. Stop.
     

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