To me Aaron made a good case why he should remain the starter last night. He really held his own against Williams, whereas Lowry was somewhat useless when he's not finishing his layups or the Refs are allowing contact. Brooks has a wider array of moves and has the range to spread the defense. At this point I'm making the judgement: Aaron's Scoring > Lowry's Passing/Defense
He probably became a fan when Yao came to the Rockets and it's actually sense but hey.........who cares. We're all fans and we all make mistakes Anyway I prefer Lowry over Brooks simply because I rather Lowry defense against opposing starting pgs and his offense isn't bad either.
A player gets a + for every point his team scores while he is on the court. He gets a minus for every point the other team scores while he is on the court. It is basically a point differential for a player's on-court minutes. It was essentially borrowed from the NHL, where they've been keeping the stat since the ... late 80's, early 90's? It isn't really extremely useful unless you know how to look further into it.
I think you're right, but I don't think there should really be a debate. I think it should be a rotation. Aaron is 1 and Kyle is 1a. Just rotate them when they're hot. If one is slumping, limit his minutes. I think it's pretty simple.
this is a flawed discussion because we are assuming both players are not improving. i think lowry is playing pretty close to his abilities (although last night he was not so good). aaron, on the other hand, is steadily improving but nowhere near his ceiling.
+/- is a bit screw. Especially when AB is playing with starters and the other Lowry is playing with the 2nd unit. I still prefer AB as the starting PG. His a player that can put pressure to the defense just by being on the court. And when you have players like Yao and to a certain extend ron, who demand double team every possession its vital you are able to stretch the defense. Lowry will be much better with the 2nd unit-- landry and wafer. Players that thrive on the open court. Where he be able to make the drive and dish. Finding the open player. Finding the cutter. When Yao is in the game, you want the ball in his hands, and that kind of limit what Lowry can do.
I'm a little guilty but i'm just tired of us getting dominated by this team all the time. I love how we match up with the rest of the league but we are going to always have to face this team in the playoffs no matter what. It just seems like its destiny for us to have to go through utah. I do like lowry playing with yao though and i think brooks should get some time with the second unit.
Brooks played a good game - aggressive but controlled. He would've had 4 or 5 more assists if his teammates made their open shots. The Jazz game aside, Lowry usually plays smart basketball. He's more effective when he focuses on setting up other players and being more selective about scoring himself. It would've helped if Landry was there to receive some of his passes.
Pretty much. I mean if the Rockets really wanted a PG with stable defense and passing ability they wouldn't have traded away Alston. Lowry is a good player but his skill set and talent aren't as high as some people are making it out to be. At least not enough to justify switching out Brooks whose speed, scoring and time with the team make him the obvious starter. Maybe in the off season there can be a competition for the position but the fact is people calling for another change in the rotation at this stage in the game... its not a good call people.
I am not gonna waste my type or spit on this topic anymore. I agree with you, Bench AB,Start Lowry. We spent a Rafer on Lowry , because the manager thinks Lowry is a upgraded PG. So, Start lowry as soon as possible. AB is a chicken without head.AB sucks as a starting PG and OK as the backup. Too much saying. I hate explaining the reason again and again. I always knew someone wouldn't admite it until we have a fatal and terrible and ugly Lost in the playoff. Just like yestardy. Die with no regret, Never lose like a nail-biting
brooks has been toasted last two games....san ant and utah he has been burned time and time again start lowery
Lowry will be better if we have good talent around him. Morey will eventually bring in enough talent. Lowry will be our starting PG. right now, Brooks fits in with this mediocre starting lineup. Brooks needs to be aggressive and put more responsibly on himself. He needs to take 20+ shots when both so called star players disappear.
Do you even watch the games? Against Utah, Brooks had 20 points and 4 assists on 8 of 17 shooting. In contrast, Lowry had 2 points and 1 assist on 0 for 6 shooting. Granted, it was one of the first nights I've seen Lowry struggle significantly, but you can't say Brooks was "burned" last night at all unless you: (1) didn't watch the game, (2) didn't look at the box score, or (3) are an idiot.
y'all are missing the point of brooks starting. He can score, so he opens up the game for Yao. You put lowry in there first and Yao only gets going against centees he should dominate, all the other times they're going to crash on him and take him out of the game early. You put Brooks in first and he can create some balance and disruption, opening up things for Yao to get going. Once Yao gets going, you can plug Lowry in and he can feed off of Yao's rythm.
You should probably change Lowry's a +0.68. Dividing a positive number by another positive number (13/19) shouldn't end up a negative number... That aside, Lowry typically plays with the back-up unit. The back-up unit is going to be less efficient than the starters. Just because they play similar minutes on occasion doesn't mean they play with the same group of players. Brooks plays more with Yao/Scola, Lowry plays more with Wafer/Landry -- one tandem is more efficient than the other. Brooks is just really inconsistent. Some nights he'll dazzle (last night, the game against Phoenix, the game after Rafer was traded) and some nights he'll absolutely stink. Lowry, however, has been remarkably consistent in his play (last night aside) and ability to get to the FT line. He's actually quite good at finishing strong as well (again, last night aside). Neither player has hit their skill ceiling and we can't call one better than the other until they near that ceiling. We've seen Brooks go on scoring tears which leads us to believe if he could do that every night, he'd be an awesome PG. We've seen Lowry draw fouls repeatedly and just generally make some great plays which leads us to believe he'd be a great facilitator like D-Will or CP3. Until one of them does a great job consistently, we're going to have this debate.
one is not better than the other. i think if you look at particular games like this, you can argue lowry has been better in most of the other games. aaron's scoring > lowry's scoring. but lowry's passing/D >> aaron's. so it balances out. we need to utilize both about the same throughout a game and just go to aaron or lowry more depending on how each plays that particular game. none is deserving to play big minutes right now like a real starter.
