The placement of the Rowdies in the arena is crap. Hiding them in the dark off to the side is ingenious by our Rockets marketing dept. and personnel. Pathetic.
looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock. for saying that, i should beat you up behind live sports cafe. on a real note (have to post something that's "about" this thread), yeah i remember one of the red rowdy games last year when a bunch of folks got po'ed and moved to a different section. hell... get up and cheer along! nice sig. now if you can reduce it to something just a tad bit shorter than pi, it would be great.
This sounds weird, but the Rockets need to come out with an official policy on standing during games. They let the rowdies stand all game, though from what I have seen, if fans in other parts of the arena stand, then another fan has the right to ask the usher to make him sit. I have seen this happen 4 times this season. A fan is standing, another fan complains, the usher is called over and then he is forced to sit or escorted out by security. I can appreciate both sides of this. If I am a fan who is cheering and making noise, but really don't feel like standing up, then why should I be forced to because the guy in front of me is standing? I paid the price of admission to get in just like him. Why should he be dictating how I watch the game? Seriously, that is something to think about next time you want to call someone lame because they don't want to stand up. Everyone watches the game the way they want to. Either standing, sitting, clapping, cheering, or discussing the play with their friend. To challenge another person's level of fandom because they don't stand is silly. What's next, you guys are going to call out someone who doesn't wear red facepaint to the games? Just understand everyone doesn't watch the game the same way you do. Some people prefer to watch the game than be a part of it.
Yeah, one time I got a $190 ticket there and even though the place was "sold out" there were so few people in the seats around me it was hard to stand up and cheer without people staring at me.
People....you bought a ticket to a "seat" not a place to stand and it does not entitle you to block the view of the people behind you. Even if they stand they might be shorter than you and not able to see over you. They paid for their ticket too, remember. They should be able to see what they paid for. If they bought a ticket for an un obstructed view, you are depriving them of that if you stand up all game. Have some common courtesy and sit down if they ask you too.
I went through this at the first Lakers-Rockets game when they were down by 27 in the 4th quarter. I only stand when a big play is made or there is a heated point going on in the game, and I'll continue to do so. And for some jerk behind me to 'not ask' but tell me to sit down is ridiculous. If I were standing the majority of the game then I can see where that's annoying, but don't tell me to sit. During the comeback the guy had to stand because he was the only one sitting. A good majority of those expensive seats are bought out by corporations and used as business 'dates'. I don't consider those people fans but just there to be seen and talk on their freakin cell phone all night. You don't go to the Toyota Center, a sports arena, to watch a live basketball game without interruption. You don't like noise or want to see the picture nice and clear all the time then stay and watch it at home. And if you are there on a business venture then have some freakin fun or stay up at the bar. Also, guys with their families...more props to you. The TC should be a safe place for kids to watch too. As long as the guy next to you isn't dropping obscenities then there shouldn't be a problem. There is nothing wrong with kids seeing people who are passionate about sports. If you want them to have a nice experience with warm fuzzies all around then suit 'em up and hit the museum. Sports is about excitement, passion, and being a fan.
I have no problem with that. However, if you stand up every time someone looks like they might be about to dunk, you're gonna make everyone behind you miss the play. It's better to let the play happen, then celebrate the result afterward. Most people understand when everyone rises up to cheer. It's just annoying when the only guy standing in your section is in front of you.
I totally agree. There's always some douchebag that feels like he needs to stand up the entire second half like it somehow helps the team or makes him a better fan. It's one thing to be loud and another thing entirely to be an inconsiderate standing-for-no-reason piece of crap. The worst is when they are doing it in front of excited kids that end up with no way of seeing the game whatsoever. OR when they do it in front of me and I have a little kid behind me so that I have to block the kid's view. You guys need to come off yourselves about standing. It doesn't help the team. It doesn't enhance the experience for anyone. All it does is make the game harder to see. I think it's more the bandwagon fans that feel the need to stand the entire game for no reason so they can "cheer" better? Some of us want to watch the BASKETBALL. For the record, I'm not referring to the Rowdies here. I think they are awesome and I love what they do. They are in their own section so it doesn't block anyone's view. They are doing a great job of firing up the rest of the arena.
I tend to agree with you in that I'd prefer to be loud sitting to let everyone else enjoy the game and then stand only at certain points. However, you're contradicting yourself. If you think standing doesn't help the team and isn't "cheering better".. then the Rowdies don't fire up the rest of the arena either. You can't have it both ways. If the Rowdies fire people up, then other people standing and cheering and going a little nuts can just as easily fire up people in a section--which helps the team and is "cheering better". (I just don't think it's worth pissing people off to do it.)
You see, this is exactly why I don't like watching sporting events live anymore. Call me crazy, but when I watch a basketball, ESPECIALLY if I have paid an exhorbitant amount of money to buy a TICKET so i can watch basketball, I actually *WANT TO WATCH THE FREAKING BASKETBALL GAME*. I do NOT want to watch the fat a$$ of some drunk moron standing in front of me. Do I stand up? Sometimes, when it's appropriate, and I am always conscious of being considerate of those behind me and sit back down when the exciting moments have passed. I guess it has something to do with having been raised to be considerate of others, and feeling that other people ought to have the same amount of consideration. And yet we have these so-called 'fans' who care only about themselves, are completely inconsiderate, and therefore not only stand up far beyond what is appropriate, but who also seem to be more interested in attracting attention to themselves (Look at me! Look what a great rowdy fan I am! Woohoo.) than in watching the BASKETBALL GAME, and are completely unconcerned that they are wrecking the experience for others around them. Is it really that unreasonable to you 'superfans' to be expected to show some consideration for those around you? However, in a way, I ought to thank you. Every time I start to think that I ought to finally go see a game at TC, I read some whining post from a 'fan' like you, and I remember why I don't go, and instead watch the game from the comfort of home. The view on my big-screen is better (it doesn't have YOU in my way), the seats are better, and the price is a LOT better. So, thanks, you have saved me a lot of time, money, and aggravation. But I wonder, what do you guys do when some jumbo 6-foot, 350-pounder decides he wants to stand in front of YOU during the game?
With that said, maybe that idea of some sort of cheer segregation area might not be all that bad of an idea. Of course, with the word, "segregation," it's basically putting the idea in a negative light, but with the TC being quiet as it is, maybe have a few sections, like maybe 8 in lower deck and 8 in upper deck levels where you give discounts for fans who know that they will pretty much have to stand to watch the game, and set those as guidelines for those seats. If the people decide that they want those discounts, then they have nothing to complain about. It all comes down to this: people enjoy the game in different ways. If you sit with the Rowdie's section, you chose the seats, and there should be prelabelled warnings on what those seats are like. In MMP, they will have a warning that parts of the field might not be seen or objects in the way, etc. Personally, if I pay for a seat by the Rowdies, which I've done a few times, I expect to stand the whole game because it does make you cheer louder. And yes, it does make the game more exciting when you have people just as "rowdy" as you are when it comes to the Rockets. Though it might be inconciderate to stand, and I don't at all times, I want to sit at that particular section because that's what that section is about, imo... make it a livlier atmosphere for the sections around. The argument that one paid for their ticket should not be dictated by another person standing up; it's the same situation when you act in a threatening way and demands that a person sits down, so that point is mute and moot. About "segregated" sections, that might actually be a nice promotion people could do to get some noise in the game for a percentage discount. Then the more casual fans that would want to enjoy their game could have their enjoyment and attend, but at the regular ticketed price or hold your peace.
I guess people enjoy the game in different ways. When everyone watches with their butts in their seats, who cheers? Oh yeah. Clap clap clap clap. Do you think fans for the Celtics or the Kings or the Knicks feel this way? Those arenas are always rocking. I suppose I like (and pay for) the live environment cause it's LIVE. If I wanted a sanitized environment without noise, without real-time mass emotional arcs, I can just watch it on TV. When I go to an arena, I want to get excited with fellow fans... Call me weird but you may have more fun occasionally letting loose and joining those 'bandwagon fans' who stand up and yell and cheer for their team. Being at a live game is one of the few times where you can do that.
I'll completely agree that anyone who is either (A) standing continuously throughout the game (B) drunk and standing continuously throughout the game (C) drunk and dropping expletives while standing continuously throughout the game are annoying and ridiculous. I understand passion for the sport, but passion doesn't give anyone an excuse to be drunken jerks. With that being said, I disagree with the idea of going to a LIVE basketball game to 'WATCH'. You don't pay that exhorbidant amount of money to just watch because like you mentioned, you can do that at home. You go to a LIVE game to experience the atmosphere, which is SUPPOSED to be electrifying and exciting. You don't go to a U2 concert to sit on you arse and sing along like it's play-time or something. You go to live the concert. So when McGrady makes an incredible shot you get up and let him know you're excited to be there. When Mutumbo blocks a shot you get up an wag your damn finger. Yeah, you should be considerate of those around you, but this is where I have the problem. If you think I'm being over zealous during the game at any point ask me to sit, and I'll oblige. Tell me to sit and my consideration for you is lost. Basketball is a faced pace, exciting environment, and for the most part fans should imitate that within reason. This isn't tennis or golf or even baseball so I'd like the arena to reflect what's going on during the game.
the rowdies were a good idea. i don't think its a coincidence that the rockets have improved thier home record this season. my feeling is that the rockets need to do MORE to get those kinds of fans into the arena. JVG baught 50 season tickets. tmac only baught 20. tmac makes 10 times more money than JVG, he should buy 500 season tickets!! put them all around the court. and what about juwon? made over 100 million dollars in the nba. he needs to buy 150 season tickets too. that's right!!! i want to see 700 ROWDIES and every game!!! all of them in the closest seating possible. yao and deke are excused because deke puts his money into a hospital in the congo and yao in think still owes his government a portion of his paycheck.
I'm your regular Joe that rarely gets past nose bleed. But my mom came into tickets from her job for courtside seats a couple of times. Each time I was the only one into the game. Everyone around me down there was so pathetically quiet. On a side note. Being that getting those tickets is a rare privledge I wanted to spend as much time as possible down there. Well both times I had the tickets I got back to my seats late from halftime. I used to complain how stupid those fans are for getting back so late from halftime, but once I experienced why I hated them less. Once halftime goes it takes a while to get all the way up the stairs, because of all the people in front of you. Which puts you at the end of every line. After going to the restrooms and getting food/beer in my hand the game was starting. Pissed me off that I turned into one of those fans that didn't get back in time. I think if Les speads up those lines in there maybe people will get back to their seats on time. Then again most of those people down there didnt seem as interested in the game as I was so maybe I'm wrong.
Players and coaches don't need to spend one dime when it comes to buying tickets. To say T-Mac only paid for 20 and that JHO or someone else needs to buy some is a joke. Those who recived tickets should be very, very thankfull and that's it. I have season tickets and I get rowdy and go nuts but sometimes there are games that lack atmosphere (like last night) and I will be a little more reserved. As far as the standing up goes, some jackass a few games back called me an ******* because I was standing during the pregame intro (some british guy). That kind of crap pisses me off so much when there is a reason to stand and cheer and someone says sit down. I think it's rude to stand all game if it is not apropriate but man some folks just don't get it. Just turn around and look them in the eye and say, "sir, if you want to sit in a quiet place and watch the game it is on tv"
Sounds like we need an Analyst....or maybe a Thereapist I know, lets get an ANALRAPIST to figure this issue out
