An Olive branch - for all Rocket fans !

What choice do we have - root for the Mavs and be petulant about JVG and root against the Rockets? Of course we're rooting for the Rockets.

Look, DaDa, you're my man, but there is a reason you're getting knocked around here, and its legit - for someone who seemed so maniacally fixated on firing a coach who won 50 games with a deeply flawed roster - to the point of losing perspective on the fun of the game or the soul of the team - this post seems patronizing to the board that had to endure your obsession, and not so much a respite from said obsession, but a rehashing of the same thing. Like, why post it if not to further the same old discussion about JVG, or more specifcally, your maniacal fixation with having him fired? Why not just post something basketball related?

The reason I bother with this is, I have and issue with "forgetting the past" when one sacrifices self awareness in the process. I still think a 50 win team with two superstars in their prime with 5 of 8 rotation spots up for grabs has deeper problems than a grouchy coach who does not play eurorookies without a track record of competing at an NBA level. What the hell do you want sane people to post all summer - "let's watch how they do under Adelman?" I'm sorry, its just not how I feel, and I think Adelman's hire is a cosmetic fix to a structural problem. Maybe VSpan will prove me wrong, but I dont think we're in better shape now than we were three weeks ago, and I think we just made our one big move of the offseason.

Splash.

 

This simply cannot be! You mean that after ridding ourselves of JVG and all of his suckiness, we STILL have to go out and get players? What? How can this be when it was JVG who was preventing this team from reaching its fullest potential? If what you're saying is true then, (gasp!) the players might also be at fault. I simply cannot believe that - it was the head coach who let us down. The blame falls on him doesn't it?

 

lol

your sig is extreme

 

Kudos CBFC. Couldn't have put it better.

I hope not. This roster is flawed. Morey at least confirmed that we need more talent on the radio the other day, so we'll see.

 

I agree that Adelman being named the new coach means all us Rockets fans should get behind him. It's just strange that you refused to do exactly what you are saying to do before with JVG?

 

Not meaning to be nitpicky here but would that be the same Morey who said that the current Rockets team is a 60 win team?

 

Get a room...

Agreed...I think we support our guy and then we he f's up, we do what we do best, b*tch about it...

CBFC, you're the man...It brought a tear to my eye reading your post...

 

thats deep.

 

i'm sure he didn't plan on yao going down for 33 games.

i expected around 55. 60 seemed a bit too high. but the point was that they could be a 60 win team.

even with no roster moves i'd expect 55+ next season. adleman is an upgrade, but his system will take some time to settle in. i expect a slow start next season. the extra wins should come with a healthier yao, and a boost for our PF's and PG's.

adleman's system is perfect for rafer and billy who can't to be creative, and use thier speed to cut. the system will also do wonders for howard and hayes, both of which are excellent interior passers. howards midrange game will make him even more of an asset to adleman.

our upgrades will comes from within our own roster, as well as at least one trade (our pick and sura?), and one FA signing (mle or lle).

 

http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1400/morey_knows_rockets_must_be_upgraded/

 

DD, you have brought this dichotomy and conflict to the board more than anyone else, IMHO. You have preached over and over and over and over your points at the most innapropriate times, and driven others to an opposite extreme, as a reaction to you and a few others. You have accused JVG with motives and twisted good things into evil that you do not know, with people eventually believing it from repetition, making it hard for discussion in the middle, without being pushed into either extreme camp. Most of the JVG overlove and VSpan hate is a reaction to your hate, obsession and judgementalness. It's been really hard to enjoy the various flavored opinions that this board has become so famous for. But, you've succeeded into polarizing this board, more than anyone else, and I have no idea how it will be corrected.

And, now that things have gone your way, with disrespect toward JVG that is unjust, and Les handling it so badly, you grin and tell everyone now that it's gone your way, BE HAPPY? I doubt you'd respond this way if it went the other way. You certainly didn't do that during this season, even though a couple times I thought you might come to your senses.

I've been here for over 10 years, and I've never seen anyone be more divisive and destructive on this BBS than you were this year. You didn't listen to any of the old-timers who asked you politely and some not so politely to back down, and reason your opinions with grace and respect, and now have offended a ton of people. I have no idea why you weren't kicked off. Now you have the gall to ask them to all be friends and sing CumBaYa? You owe a lot of people an apology. If you actually understood what you'd done, and apologized for what really offended people, you might bring some healing. Now, a lot of people want you to be wrong. I have no idea how to bring peace to this place again. It's not a very fun place to be anymore.

Something happened behind the scenes during the playoffs, IMO. Even though we hit a hot Jazz team, our team didn't step up for the coach, and he didn't lead them. No one had any great games that comes from rising to the occaision. From some of the comments, there were rumors circling during the playoffs about JVG's demise. Ironically, Les himself may be truly reponsible for the team losing heart, and not going further in the playoffs. Perhaps that was intentional. That would be sad, if we found out we had all been manipulated as fans, just because Les didn't like JVG's dourness and boring style of play.

I always did wonder about JVG's ability to take us all the way, and so part of me wonders if our team won't be better of with someone who could. He had his chance, and didn't do it. But, I'm not sure I see Adleman as the man who can. If we waited a year on Jackson, I do believe he could, so I worry we'll miss our chance to get him or an up and comer. The playoffs clearly showed we just didn't have the talent or leadership. Even though I don't like Brown, if he came in for one year, while we waited on Jackson, he'd possibly take us all the way, if Morey got us more talent, but that's far from a perfect solution. If that is not addressed by Morey, we'll be in this same spot next year, which many of us sense would suck. If we have to spend another couple years developing the team to be Rick's, that just delays things past TMac's health, and maybe never get there. We had a chance this year. I believe it was sabatauged, although don't know the facts. This whole situation is not so simple as you make it. JVG did an amazing job with what he had this year, and that should be recognized. He didn't deserve it to go down like this. But, I don't know if he had what it took to take us all the way, either. Replacing the coach will not solve our problems, so many of us are worried that the wrong problems will go unfixed.

We're Rockets fans. We'll stand by our team, and discuss our chances ad infinitum, hopefully on this message board. But, Les has caused a lot of confidence to be lost in the front office and those pulling the strings. I'm sure we'll all get more excited once some wise personnel moves are made that make sense.

But, nows not the time to get your guitar out and seranade those you've offended, without making anything right that you've wronged.

 

LOL. Brilliant! So you flood the board with posts bashing the former coach and why he needs to be fired and when he finally is, you extend an 'olive branch' and 'propose we stop the bickering about JVG.'

I really wish I was making this up.

 

Nice apology DaDa. Once again completely skirt your responsibility as Sherlock so astutely pointed out.

...and the beat goes on....

 

I, for one, have enjoyed your posts over the last 7-8 years. I have to admit, though I was not pissed at you, it certainly was frustrating this year DaDa. It's just the timing of you starting this type of thread, that has come across as very duplicitous.

However everyone is learning, hopefully, as life goes on.

GO ROCKETS!

 

Ahhhh! You're Snooooopy! No, You're Snoooooooopy!

 

I concur. It's just a lot of raw feelings around here still. Everybody's sore from the Utah series, but this Adelman business just a band aid, or salt on the wound depending on how you see it. And the condescending tone from the "winning" side just makes it worse.

I guess I'll support the new guy. My presumption is that he will suck, and we'll get worse, and I'll essentially be something of a Cubs fan for basketball unless I realign my team loyalties (will never happen).

I'll be happy if I'm wrong, but it feels like a "hey kids meet your new stepmother. I know the funeral was just last week, but Bambi will be a better mommy, I promise. I mean look at that chest. How could she not be? We're all behind this now, right?"