To my knowledge the new black panthers haven't murdered anyone. There are no laws that bar whites from voting, eating at the same places, etc. To my knowledge the new black panthers don't have any elected leaders in power and able to use that power to discriminate. Those are some of the main differences.
I did not expect such political naivity. Obama made his bones as a community organizer in Acorn, which has a reputation for graft, corruption and strong-arm tactics. The New Black Panthers and Acorn have a free reign since they know Eric Holder will set them free without charges. BTW, if you are a white person, you would need very large cohones to eat in a Black Panther neighborhood restaurant. I can attest to that personally -- a little mistake I made some months ago. Had Holder and his Justice Department made sure the polling place thugs got five to 10 years in prison, that would have changed the perception in the white community that the administration is harnessing these thugs for their benefit.
If the protestors at the town hall meetings were 1/1000th as polite at the New Black Panther was in that video, I would have no problems with them. He didn't even raise his voice, and there was a nice back and forth with the guy with the camera. You and your buddies could learn something from them. The New Black Panther in that video reminded me very much of the Guardian Angels I see walking back and forth on Montrose on weekends. Are you equally afraid of Guardian Angels?
i can only speak for myself and a few friends, but i think a lot of people who might otherwise have been sympathetic to Obama are just tired of being depicted a racists. i cannot underscore enough what an epic catastrophe (FAIL really does not begin to describe the damage) Gatesgate was within the larger moderate (in the political sense) white community.
Opposition does not equal equivalence. Different people, protesting different things, at different times, under different circumstances. There is no equivalence. One can be more right than the other, and one can be more wrong. Opposition does NOT equal equivalence. Just saying 'YEAH WELL LOOK WHAT UR SIDE DID!' and then trying all sorts of weird rhetoric to make it look like the actions are equivalent only means you have been so thoroughly inundated by the media format for 'debate' that you've ceased taking situations as they are and are, instead, taking situations and fitting them into your perceived framework (inherited from the media) of what constitutes 'debate'.
I avoid anyone, with the exception of peace officers, brandishing a weapon. BTW. what if that same guy, instead of being dressed in a paramilitary uniform, had been standing there acting the same way but dressed in a white robe with a white hood and brandishing a night stick?
Since the KKK has an extensive documented history racial murders, lynchings, and other violent race crime, and because there is a clear and extensive history of black oppression in the USA, there is a clear difference.
Sorry, that is getting very close to the tinhat line, if it didn't cross it. I go through a couple of black panther communities all the time. So what? How on EARTH do you connect that to Eric Holder and Obama (or even Acorn), other than the color of their skin? Why not just connect them to professional sports and break dancing and subsaharan Africa while you're at it? Subsaharan Africa has... a lot of flies and malnutrition and a lack of drinking water, so... so does the household of ERIC HOLDER! Flies I tell you! And he drinks MUD! I'm not saying anything is "racist," but I'm saying your post displays a really huge dose of racial paranoia. Scary times don't need to get scarrier via extreme nonsense. Take a deep breath and clear your head.
I agree, and I have stated this same philosophy in other threads, perhaps not as succinctly. However, my goal in my minor diatribes is to illustrate the hypocrisy of the current administration / supporters decrying that current protestors are an "un-American mob" while protesters during the Bush administration were "patriots" when the tactics were identical.
hum... loyalty oaths to enter events people bringing guns to events people bringing "Death to Obama" signs to events you're right thumbs, exactly the same
hum... I never signed or even saw any form of loyalty oath to enter a political event, whether Republican, Democratic or Libertarian. I've never seen a gun at a political event (peace officers excepted), whether Republican, Democratic or Libertarian. I have seen a "Death to Obama" sign (Alamo tea party) but that guy got avoided by attendees like the Red Sea parting before the Israelites. He wasn't around in my sector for very long. Can you make those statements regarding Bush protestors?
You are really claiming that the Klan hasn't murdered and lynched on a systematic basis? Or are you claiming that the New Black Panthers have? Please, explain. Do tell exactly how what the Panthers have done in any way equals the murder and oppression of the Klan. I would love to hear it. Make sure to back it up with figures and facts. I'm popping up some popcorn right now in anticipation.
"There is a clear difference." Oh, really? One is white. One is black. It's the only real difference in philosophy.
I'm waiting for the figures to back that up. Please. Any figures at all. The clear difference is the history of both organizations. KKK = systematic murder. New Black Panthers ≠ systematic murder.
I like how we're completely ignoring the article that started this thread now. The one where Americans who can't afford health insurance have to receive medical attention in a f***ing barn like an animal. What is the plan for helping these people that won't "ruin the America you grew up in?" It would also be nice to hear from people on this board who have had to deal with a major medical problem and were mostly satisfied with their insurance company. I know, it's like asking for real proof of the Lochness Monster or Bigfoot.
Can you name the barn, i.e. hospital or clinic? One plan might be to give illegal aliens medical care and then transport them to their native country. My mom, 89, loves her insurance plan (Federal Blue Cross, Blue Shield and Medicare). Combined, they have paid 100% of her bills for breast cancer, stroke, heart attack, osteoporosis, arthritis, knee surgery, shoulder surgery, eye surgery and various minor maladies. All the doctors swear she is a medical marvel and fully expect her to be a centenarian because she is still so spry and alert.
