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American POW freed in prisoner swap. And the GOP doesn't like it.....

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  1. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Member

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    I don't believe such a result is likely. If there was a definite 100% chance of such loss of life, that would change my calculations. However, that chance is minuscule.
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    LOL, he was a prisoner of the other side in a war we are still actively engaged in. Try again, rookie.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Apparently, you need a course in reading comprehension. Try again, rookie.
     
  4. bobmarley

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    Former Soldier: Military Told Unit To “Not Tell the Truth” About Bergdahl…

    Via Noah Rothman:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-soldier-military-told-unit-to-not-tell-the-truth-about-bergdahl/

    In an appearance on Fox & Friends on Wednesday, retired Army Spc. Josh Fuller, a soldier who served with Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl since 2008, said that the military informed him and other soldiers that the “narrative” they should maintain is that Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban rather than that he intentionally left his base. When asked if he believed he was told not to “tell the truth” about Bergdahl by military authorities, Fuller said that he did.

    “The sentiment that everybody knew was that he walked off the base in the middle of the night, left all his gear there, and went – just walked off the post,” Fuller said. “So, we had all known that it was — that he had deserted his post, and there was never anything about him getting captured or POW until a little while later whenever it came down from the chain of command that we needed to keep quiet and not say anything.”

    “We’re going with the narrative that he was captured,” Fuller said of the military’s position on Bergdahl’s alleged desertion.

    “So, they basically told you not to tell the truth,” Fox host Brian Kilmeade said.

    “Yes, sir,” Fuller replied.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    Is Bergdahl the most hated soldier in American history?

     
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    After disappearing in eastern Afghanistan in June 2009, Bergdahl was listed by the Pentagon on July 1, 2009, as "duty status whereabouts unknown." Two days later his status was changed to "missing/captured," and it did not change again prior to his release.

    Bergdahl was never listed by US as a POW
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Certainly up there. Soldiers don't like traitors.
     
  8. bongman

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  10. brantonli24

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    So what was the point of your post? :confused:

    We get it, these is a strong possibility this guy was a deserter, but let the military court decide that, not the media courtroom.
     
  11. glynch

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    Poor Treeman. As his hero Dubya tried to say: "Fool me once shame on you shame me twice shame on me." His right wing sources keep fooling him

    If leftists were in the poor guy would have not been chasing wmd
    S for nothing. Poor guy probably thinks they are buried somewhere
     
  12. basso

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    BB was in Afghanistan, not iRaq.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    His sources must have fooled him.
     
  14. ArtV

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    Yea!!! The conflict is over!!!
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    (yes I swing at both sides)

    And I would agree that IF the conflict was over full trade of both sides would be in order but the truth is the conflict is not over. Would you capture Hitler's high ranking officials only to turn them back over to Hilter while the war was still on to bring back a POW? Being a POW sucks beyond what anyone of us could ever imagine, but it's war and the sad fact here is he brought this upon himself...How'd walking off and heading over to the Afghan side work out for you? But regardless, you don't negotiate with terrorists while we are still fighting.

    (oh and I agree on the Mexican law though).
     
  15. justtxyank

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    The conflict isn't over, except in Obama's mind it is. If he thought it would be fine politically, he'd pull every troop out of Afghanistan at 1pm today. He has no interest in being there. I don't mean that as a criticism, it's just the truth.

    Honestly I feel bad for any soldier in Afghanistan right now. They are just sitting over there and dying because politically they have to wait it out a little longer. The administration is done with the way, American citizens don't even think about the war for most part, there are no real objectives left, nobody actually thinks we are going to have a stable situation when we leave...just playing out the string.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Well it'll actually be worse now. We are about to draw down troop levels and now there is a huge bounty on the head of every single solder or marine in country. If they can get 5 top Taliban leaders for a traitor, imagine what the could get for a real soldier.
     
  17. Deji McGever

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    This entire topic is one of manufactured outrage, and the marching orders are so painfully partisan, and it's a shameful snapshot of our incredibly unhealthy politcal culture.

    Let me start by saying: I personally disagree with the decision, it isn't difficult to understand the arguments of why the deal shouldn't have been made, and I'm glad the people who did disagree had their say.

    And yet, this deal was in the works for a long time, had the endoresent of GOP senators on the relevant committees, with notable arguments against (notably the not so conservative Senator Feinstein) and was sold as an inevitable beginning of the end of the war. Maybe you don't like it? That's cool. You're in good company, and the opinions on that subject don't neccesarily reflect partsan lines.

    How did this exactly become a contraversy? Because it's manufactured outrage that gets the chattering classes chattering, pundits to have something to get paid to do, news networks to have material to air to keep ad dollars flowing and most importantly, combat voter cynicism in one's own party by making it partisan. Everyone benefits from it and everyone is happy to play the game, and it's all total bull****.

    Even if McCain just honestly changed his mind about it (unlikely), and really had misgivings about the exchange (I can give him that), it would be enough to do his job as a senator to make his argument, and when he didn't get his way, say to his constituents that he was against it, and disagreed with the decision, and move on with the business of the Senate.

    Instead the American public is yet again being treated to a festival of cynical exploitation, where the GOP is telling us the state is in freaking peril, and the left is questioning their patriotism and willingness to "support the troops" and I can actually feel myself getting dumber as everyone races each other to save the Republic from imaginary flames...

    All as a response to one of many, many mundane acts that are all part of a plan to wind down a war that public and legislative consensus is agreed upon. If your button is being pushed, the only thing that should be outraging you is how easily you are being manipulated into protecting the incumbancy of people who should be doing their jobs.

    It's not about how you feel about Obama, or the war in general, or whether this kid is deserving of a court martial or a victory parade, or if allowing 5 illiterate nutters who believe in magic out of prison is a threat to the safety of American servicemen, or obsessive fantasies about being sent to FEMA camp where we will all surely be brainwashed into hating our guns, beer and sports, and forced to join a gay men's chorus to sing the Internationale to entertain the lines of teen girls having abortions on demand paid for by taxpayers.

    There are better things to argue about -- let's move on :)
     
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  18. ArtV

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    And I agree with you. The soldiers are over there doing what they are told and riding this out but this conflict is far from over. Americans (I being one of them) want out and Afghans want us out but this is far from over.
     
  19. ArtV

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    Or just any American. Reason #1 why you don't do it like this.
     
  20. tallanvor

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    The outrage is not partisan. Soldiers and Democrats disapprove.
     

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