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American POW freed in prisoner swap. And the GOP doesn't like it.....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr.Scarface, May 31, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    Agreed. Longer than that really. Almost all of the problems over there are directly related to WW2 and how the victors acted immediately afterwards. However, nearly a century of awful policy doesn't excuse a new blunder.
     
  2. tallanvor

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    he broke the law.....

    why would u assume that? people break the law all the time and don't see a day in court. Especially politicians.

    Obama just released 5 Taliban leaders whose mission in life is to murder Americans. Do see that as a bad thing?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    The bigger problem is that they helped legitimize the Taliban government and those 5 leaders will almost certainly help destabilize the region even further, there's a reason why the Afghan government is absolutely furious about this.
     
  4. bobmarley

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  5. solid

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    Let's see, five terrorists for one deserter….might be something wrong with that trade.
     
  6. Hustle Town

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    Any Marxists on here want to defend this still? :eek::mad::mad::mad:
     
  7. Hustle Town

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    Heads better roll for this egregious offense.
     
  8. tallanvor

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-not-pull-a-bergdahl-swap-for-alan-gross-ex-cuban-intel-asks/

     
  9. bobmarley

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    White House Apologizes To Dem Sen. Dianne Feinstein For Failing To Notify Her Before Releasing Gitmo Detainees, Calls It An “Oversight”…

    Via The Hill:http://thehill.com/policy/defense/208070-white-house-apologizes-to-senate-intelligence

    The White House has apologized to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for failing to alert her in advance of a decision to release Taliban commanders from Guantanamo Bay.

    Feinstein told reporters that she received a call from Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken on Monday evening apologizing for what the administration is calling an “oversight.”

    “I had a call from the White House last night, from Tony Blinken, apologizing for it,” she said.

    “He apologized and said it was an oversight,” she added.

    Feinstein also said leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence panels were almost unanimously against a prisoner trade when it came up in 2011.

    She said the chairmen and ranking Republicans of the “connected committees” spent a lot of time in 2011 reviewing the possibility of a prisoner swap and came out firmly opposed to releasing senior militants from the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay.
     
  10. Dubious

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    One American is worth 5 Arabs because 'Murica.
     
  11. CometsWin

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    What about the commies? Don't leave them out.
     
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    Boehner: "Congressional Leaders told 2 years ago of possible swap"
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, and they said almost unanimously "no" which is why they didn't tell them this time, they knew they wouldn't get permission.
     
  14. mc mark

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    Obstruction thy name is the republican party
     
  15. bobmarley

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    Actual it was the head of the CIA and many others in the intelligence community.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    fify. both parties said no. As did Clapper and Panetta.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    No, it was almost unanimously rejected and that includes his party and staff. This time they left nothing to chance so they didn't go through appropriate channels they just rushed the decision through. I would expect to see Democrats speaking out against this right and left, they have elections to win and they won't want to be associated with this blunder.....which they shouldn't because it's not like they supported it either.
     
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    I'm not going to read through 17 pages, but I'll give my view.

    1) I don't have the intel to say whether or not I agree with the decision
    2) I know if that were my family or friend, I'd say it was worth the cost regardless.
    3) It is wrong for us to make negative assumptions
    4) Why is the Taliban taking more hostages necessarily a bad thing? I'd prefer it over them just murdering Americans/soldiers.
    5) The President certainly shouldn't choose which laws he chooses to follow. If he felt the law was unconstitutional, he should have vetoed the bill. With prior law he should challenge it in the court before acting on it. It sure would be nice if we didn't have to wait for legal challenge to decide if a law is constitutional or not.
     
  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    Maybe so, but I would prefer to see a court determine that rather than just believe accusations.

    I posted an article where the military specifically said that they would investigate, so I believe it is a very safe assumption, as opposed to the assumption of guilt that you are making.

    The entire situation is undesirable and I do not see it as a desirable outcome that we released 5 Taliban leaders. However, it is far more desirable than letting an American serviceman rot in Afghanistan based on assumptions of desertion. If he deserted (which I honestly see as a pretty high probability), I think the military will hold him accountable. That is not my determination to make, nor is it yours or Bobby's, nor is it one to be made by other soldiers, save the ones who serve as his jury.
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    Apparently, there are plenty of idiots ready to hang him without a trial.
     

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