So you think it is "laughable" that I actually pay attention to what each campaign is saying. You think it is "laughable" that I do research and determine which candidate I most closely align with and vote based on that determination? You also think that I am "perhaps" a racist because I will probably choose to vote for McCain? I find that highly insulting.
I just realized that you tried to make this a personal issue(i.e. EVERYONE who votes against Obama is a racist), while I was talking about the country as a whole. Specifically, a majority of the people voting for McCain over Obama. So sorry about that. This wasn't an attempt to point out any particular voters, but the overall voting community in the US. And yes, I do believe that if the majority of Americans vote for McCain, than it is a race issue. If 40-45%% vote for him? Not so much.
It has to do with your attitude about speaking up against racism. If MLK and other civil rights leaders had that attitude then civil rights in this nation wouldn't have advanced at all. Again you are aiming for the wrong target.
So, in 2000, Republicans didn’t vote for Gore because he’s a Democrat. And in 2004, they didn’t vote for Kerry because he’s a Democrat. Now, when they’re not voting for Obama, it’s because they’re racist? Help me understand this logic. You were probably saying the same thing about them nominating a woman a few months ago. Dems are saying 1/3 of them won't vote for THEIR OWN NOMINEE because he's black. Sorry, but you guys can't claim the high road this time.
America is ready for a black President, but so long as he is qualified. Obama obviously is not qualified. He has a tissue paper thin resume and he has never led a single thing in his life. He has no experience. McCain is the exact opposite -- a patriot, a war hero, a maverick senator, and a leader. By trying to frame this as "is America ready for a black President", it totally whiffs on the CHOICE that we have in this election. The choice is McCain or Obama. The choice is NOT Obama or 'you are racist'. Colin Powell would probably win the election if he ran as either a Democrat or a Republican. And he's 'blacker' than Obama.
If God breaths the love of Peace into the hearts of men. then we won't have any more war mongering Male Presidents! So all the many billions can go to peaceful purposes, no need to raise taxes, no need to have Armed Forces etc
Patriot? How is Obama not a patriot? How does being a war hero qualify one for the presidency? Maverick senator, is that true now? Leader of what exactly? Like I said in my original post, it is people that I know that are voting for McCain that are using this excuse. I'm not saying that everybody I know who is voting for McCain uses it but the only people that have used it are voting for McCain. I just really don't understand the meaning of the phrase although JuanValdez's theory on the first page looks as good as any to me. I for one do not believe that every vote going for McCain is a racist one but you're crazy if you do not think race plays a role in some of the votes that both candidates get. Maybe. What does the 'blacker' statement even mean?
Obama won the primary because blacks voted for him and he didn't even have to lift a finger to earn their vote. That gave him a huge built in advantage over Hillary. Blacks voted for him over Hillary by overwhelming margins. How many impoverished black areas did you see Obama campaigning in? I didn't see any.
What does "blacker than Obama" mean? That's like me saying you are "whiter than Manilow". What sense does it make?
If this is the case then John McCain is tied with Obama b/c more white people are voting for him. I've heard you say blacks are voting for Obama b/c he is black, which is racist. So cant we say the same for whites that vote for McCain?
I thought Hilary had this huge built in advantage of the white working class voting for her, which is something you've mentioned in previous threads, no? In fact, her advantage should be that much larger due to the fact that whites are the majority in this country.
What's the high road? Unfortunately people still harbor racist undertones and thoughts that affect their decisions on who they feel is qualified to lead. I say this to say that the same "I believe" is true of Republicans also especially since a larger part of them are white. From the poll that says that I just want people to finally understand that race plays a HUGE part on BOTH sides. But for some on this forum to truly feel that it doesnt apply to their race or party is in my opinion ludicrous
Whites split their vote between Hillary and Obama. Blacks voted in one monolithic block (over 90%). 'blacker than Obama' means that Powell has more ties to black culture and has black parents. Obama grew up completely away from black culture, attending private schools and being raised by mostly white family members (except for Lolo). He then went to Ivy League schools... He really had no ties to black culture, which is why he had to join Trinity United.
So...since the Republicans haven't nominated their own black nominee, we can project that they wouldn't vote for one. Even though they gush about Colin Powel, and Condi Rice. Didn't some say Obama would never get the Dem nomination because of race? Is race the only real difference between McCain and Obama? They have the same basic vision for foreign policy, the economy, free trade, taxes, social issues, healthcare? The Republicans have run very successful campaigns painting their opponents as egghead socialists. Expect that tack to carry more weight.
Sorry Pun but you are trying use logic and common sense when cornered they lie. . .change the rules. . .and evade like a roach when the light comes on So don't expect more that rhetoric and crap from THAT SOURCE as for his 'boy' . . Mr. Its the least he can do .. . well . . i have my suspicions on that one . . . Rocket River They are what you think they are . . .and worse
What does that say then? I mean, I really didn't see Hilary campaigning for the black vote, other than South Carolina but Obama campaigned for that vote as well. What makes one black? Is it their skin color, their beliefs, their cultural upbringing, their ties to others like them, I mean what? At the end of the day, both Powell and Obama are black in the eyes of the majority of America. You can make Obama out to be less black all you want but at the end of the day he is what he is in the eyes of Americans.
Just because you like someone doesn't mean they can eat at your table. I'm sure you like Ryan Bowens hustle but you dont want him to lead your team. What that says is that just b/c he speaks eloquently and is very professional or just that he breaks the mold of the normal stereotype doesnt mean you are ready to have him as your president. The proof will be in the pudding once the Republicans elect a black man. And if and when they do THAT will be a landmark event.
