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America about to shamed before the world on Italian Satellite TV

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Nov 7, 2005.

  1. mc mark

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    glad yer back wnes
     
  2. Ty_Webb

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    well, if this accusation does turn out to be true... the rationalization from the wingnuts ought to be something to behold. You can also beat your every dollar that we will have a “terror alert” in a matter of days.
     
  3. HayesStreet

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    As a side note, napalm and phosphorus, both used in incendiary-type weapons, are not classified as CW agents because their destruction power is primarily thermal.

    That is why the CWC is irrelevant to this discussion. So far this looks like a specific member of the media, with motive to slander the US, sensationalizing a non-story.
     
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    Well personally, while I'm watching my skin melt away from phosphorus, I don't think I'll be debating the merits of it being a CW or not.
     
  5. HayesStreet

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    Hey, I'm just pointing out that you (and/or the article) mistakenly referenced to the two conventions giving the misimpression we were violating conventions we have signed.

    And a piece of advice - if the US military surrounds your town and says 'get out - we're here for a showdown with insurgents'.....leave town.
     
  6. mc mark

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    So hayes, please correct me if I wrong (and I'm sure you will :)).

    Are you saying that it's okay for us to use these um...weapons because they aren't technically CWs?

    Just trying to be clear.

    [edit] nevermind, I think you answered my question.
     
  7. wnes

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    Where can they go? Holiday Inns?
     
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    And yet you have never shown any posts of Kos to be false. I'm waiting for you to address the substance of any one of the posts, including this one.
     
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    Holiday Inn Express....

    Seriously, most of the residents of Fallujah left so I don't think it was impossible to leave. I'm not blaming whatever civilians were injured, however. I was merely exchanging banter with mcmark. It's unfortunate. It's terrible. It's not a war crime. It's not a violation of international law. It's a product of the blogosphere that's exaggerating or misrepresenting the facts.
     
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    is the use of the word "murdered" a considered editorial decision on your part mark? do you believe he was "murdered," or was this just an unfelicitous turn of phrase?
     
  11. mc mark

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    Is he not dead?
     
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    I am not sure whether it's true. But even if it's true, it wouldn't really surprise me. From what I read, they used some of those chemical or biological weapons in Vietnam and Korea, and there were constantly talk about "precise" nuclear weapons. Besides, US is no longer part of any of those treadies (correct me if I am wrong). The troops have the weapons, and nobody is powerful enough to stop them using it. So I wouldn't be surprised if they used it, and will continue to use in the future. But going after Sadam for possible WMD was still a joke.
     
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    is not "murdered" a rather inflammatory term?
     
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    Some of you are trying to put a good spin, mainly because you're an American, and don't wish to think of us in any way other than as the good guys, but the rest of the world will not have your innate since of trust in the US and even less in this administration. They will not see the semantic differences of "is it or is it not a chemical weapon" that some of you are pointing out as being valid, nor will they care that we never signed a treaty that said we can't use "chemical weapons" on civilians.

    I hope this isn't true but if it is we it is indeed a said day for America.
     
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    I'm sure it is to sensitive neoprogressives such as yourself.
     
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    that's procon to you...so, do you feel that all the "enemy combatants" that the US has killed during the war were "murdered?"
     
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    did you recently take a course taught by hayes?
     
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    Did I say he was an "enemy combatant?"

    So would you like to address the substance of the possible charges that the US used chemical weapons on civilians and not semantics of a word?
     
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    i think your choice of words is indicative of your world view. i find it astounding that you can argue elsewhere that you "support the troops" yet acuse them of "murder" in this case on the word of a sensationalist, america hating, prto-communist, journalist.

    "substance of possible charges." i can't believe you can write that phrase w/o even a trace of irony. let's see what they say, how it's presented, and what the US military says about the issue. right now, it's just a sensationalist headline, and yet more fog for the fever swamps.
     
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    I really don't think that civilians dying from contact with phosphorus equals a US chemical attack. Tragic results absolutely, but I seriously doubt we would use phosphorus as a primary weapon.

    I guess we'll see what the report has to say though, because i'm sure this will be a big worldwide story.
     

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