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Amen Thompson tank thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, Apr 19, 2023.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah but you aren't talking about equivalent shooters.

    Ja has shot 32% from 3 in the NBA....which is awful by NBA standards
    Wade shot 30% from 3 in the NBA with his prime being a decade ago....which is awful by NBA standards

    Amen shot 22% from 3 in a glorified rec league against children.....which is awful for a high school JV guard.

    Ja is closer to Steph Curry's level of shooting than Amen is to Ja's.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    Vecenie said the Twins have Movement Power over other prospects, while Whitmore has Static Power.......

    If Compared to Rotten Tomatoes rankings....

    Amen is 10 out of 10
    Ausar is 9.2 out of 10 according to experts.

    Vecenie also said Ausar can work his way up to Amen's superiority in creation.
     
  3. Tuckmose

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    Markelle Fultz wasn't that long ago, Jalen Suggs still looks awful, and James Wiseman doesn't project well either.

    High lotto picks busting will always be a thing, even if teams aren't dumb enough to draft Andrew Bogut #1 overall anymore.
     
  4. OremLK

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    Cam played pretty well in college ball. 12.5, 5.3, and 0.7 on 47.8% / 34.3% / 70.3% shooting is good at that level. But it's not like, lighting the world on fire good. People are talking like OTE is so bad that even a decent NCAA performance is better, and I just don't think that's true. And that 0.7 per game assists number is deeply, deeply concerning to me with Cam, at least as concerning as the twins' shooting percentages given that Cam is not a great shooter either.
     
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  5. daywalker02

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    But team's repair programs got better and NBA teams have more patience with them ---- See Fultz now.

    Reclamation projects.

    Bogut at least helped win 1 championship so not useless.

    And with the new CBA you can bet teams are not quitting on their "early busts" and give them more chances.
     
  6. Tuckmose

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    A big man can get away with playing in the dunker spot and not totally kill spacing, a non-shooting guard doesn't have the luxury. Even if he were to cut to the rim he'd still meet a ton of defenders smothering him.
     
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    So they were held back a year in school also? That's 2 red flags.
     
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  8. ApacheWarrior

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    Again people living the past.

    Wilt Chamberlain couldn't shoot either... Blah, blah, blah
    Wilt scored 100 points in a game. Then restricted area was added. 3 second rule.

    Zone was added in 2000....then 10 years later Dallas used a zone to beat D Wade/LeBron/Bosh.

    Heat added shooters to open things up.

    Defenses are now adjusting again, sagging off worst shooters to clog the paint. You will see the adaptation of the zone play out in many smart ways that you didn't see done in 2000.

    Yes 23 years later.

    The 3 years ago was the past.....on to the future where everyone needs to shoot
     
  9. ApacheWarrior

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    Again people living the past.

    Wilt Chamberlain couldn't shoot either... Blah, blah, blah
    Wilt scored 100 points in a game. Then restricted area was added. 3 second rule.

    Zone was added in 2000....then 10 years later Dallas used a zone to beat D Wade/LeBron/Bosh.

    Heat added shooters to open things up.

    Defenses are now adjusting again, sagging off worst shooters to clog the paint. You will see the adaptation of the zone play out in many smart ways that you didn't see done in 2000.

    Yes 23 years later.

    The 3 years ago was the past.....on to the future where everyone needs to shoot. Those who can't are liabilities on offense.
     
  10. OremLK

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    Please remember that Amen Thompson is 6'7" in shoes with a 7-foot wingspan. You can build a lot of interesting lineups with that which you can't necessarily do around a 6'3" guard. Having Jabari Smith also really fits extremely well with the kind of team you'd be trying to build around an Amen type of guy handling the ball. There are ways to build your team where you can hide non-shooting perimeter players by forcing defenses to come out and guard the big man spots, and it helps tremendously that Amen can guard 1-3 and possibly up to the 4 sometimes.
     
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  11. daywalker02

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    People said the same thing, and even more adamant about Jalen Green‘s work ethic until he found the way of money.

    Flashing bills on IG, going to Fashion Weeks etc.

    People and certainly players change.
     
  12. Deuce

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    Yup. Westbrook standing around on the perimeter. No cutting or moving without the ball. Stuff Amen does. That is the BB IQ and unselfishness.
     
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    ???

    Green still seems like a hard worker to me. He doesn't have to spend 16 hours a day on basketball (and in fact that might not even be productive, the body and mind can only do so much in a day).
     
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    This hard work ethic thing rarely works, I surely have not seen tons of results in the 2nd year.

    Yeah, a little here and there but not by a large margin.

    Maybe the hours are not necessary, or he is just projected to be a scorer.
     
  15. YOLO

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    where's he supposed to cut and move to? into the wall of defenders and crowded space even more so because he isn't even being guarded? bad bball iq does that. It's his lack of shooting clearly.

    the point of cutting and moving is to try and keep defenses off balance and create lanes and space. There's no such thing as cutting and moving against an imaginary player that's not even close to you. The wide open space is already being gifted to you because of your glaring weakness.

    The correct basketball play is since nobody is in the realm of guarding you, you as a professional basketball player learn how to make a wide open shot that's literally being given to you. If you can't go sit down on the bench because you're killing your own team.
     
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  16. Houston77

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    Why are working hard and going to fashion week mutually exclusive?
     
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  17. Deuce

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    Amen already is quite wealthy from his OTE money. Despite that, he wears sweats and crocks everyday going from his room to the gym non-stop. He got fitted for his draft suit and said he wasn't a fan.

    And Jalen has great work ethic. You can have that and still have a life outside of what YOU SEE ON IG.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    Everyone except a few exceptions are hard workers in the NBA, that is why most of them made it into the league including those undrafted Miami players.

    I mean it is good everyone mentions work ethic, but it is not like 50 percent are slackers, they do not love basketball but they still go work out.

    That just means the others are still working out but they probably love music or whatever ish as well.

    Basically said the same thing, work ethic written by us non players do not mean shet.

    The result on the court matters, and that is good competition if almost everyone has a decent work ethic.
     
  19. Little Bit

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    He has the lowest ceiling out of all of the top 4 prospects. He’s a nice player but the Rockets need more than nice before they start losing their draft picks. They need to swing for the fences with this pick and get either Scoot or Amen. They bring more to the table and their potential is so much more greater than Miller’s. Brandon Miller is a safe pick, like picking Keagan Murray in last years draft, but that’s not what we need.
     
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  20. YOLO

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    he actually has one of the highest ceilings, which is why he's consistently rated as the 2nd overall prospect behind Wemby
     

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