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Amazon no longer hosts Parler

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  1. heypartner

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    been following this. she's a superstar. calls herself a "data spelunker." haha, never heard that term.

    well done, girl! I wonder if she has a Dragon Tatoo

    but let's note: there is no legal chain of custody to her digital forensics, especially since she put out a call for others to aid in the d/l for speed reasons. So, FBI can find crimes being done on video or in pictures, but anything else is on the level of just a "tip", with no legal standing what ppl post, aside from pictures / videos of crimes being done.

    Without chain of custody, I could insert fake posts, create fake accounts (even with IDs, ssn, etc) ... basically, equivalent to a hacker from MAGA walking into the FBI with "Hunter Biden's Laptop" ... "Here, look at all these emails and documents I found.
     
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    I bet she sideloads.
     
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    #163 heypartner, Jan 12, 2021
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  4. No Worries

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    Pirate Bay Founder Thinks Parler's Inability To Stay Online Is 'Embarrassing'


    As one of the original co-founders of The Pirate Bay, Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi knows a little something about keeping controversial services online. Kolmisoppi and his colleagues spent decades battling a global coalition of corporations, governments, and law enforcement agencies intent on wiping the file sharing website from the face of the internet. Unsuccessfully. Kolmisoppi took to Twitter this week to share some thoughts on Parler's recent deplatforming for failing to seriously police death threats and illegal content before and after the fatal Capitol riots.

    "The Pirate Bay, the most censored website in the world, started by kids, run by people with problems with alcohol, drugs and money, still is up after almost two decades," Kolmisoppi said. "Parlor and gab etc have all the money around but no skills or mindset. Embarrassing." [...] Platforming white supremacy and hate speech is a tougher proposition than serving users pirated copies of the Prince discography. But Kolmisoppi was quick to laugh at the fact that despite being backed by billionaires and parts of the US government, Parler didn't seem remotely prepared for the justified firestorm it found itself at the center of. "The most ironic thing is that The Pirate Bay's enemies include not just the US government but also many European and the Russian one," he said. "Compared to gab/parlor which is supported by the current president of the US and probably liked by the Russian one too."

    "In all honesty, the reason we did The Pirate Bay was to bring freedom and take back control from a centralised system," Kolmisoppi said. "The reason that Gab et al will fail is because they're just whining bitches that have only one ideology: egotism. Sharing is caring y'all." In more recent years, Kolmoisoppi has moved on to fund Njalla, a privacy-centric domain name registration service. One he says was already asked to host Parler, and refused. "Of course we wouldn't," Kolmisoppi said. "We're pro human rights, which includes the right to not be killed by extreme right wing terrorists."

     
  5. mdrowe00

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    ...sometimes the bad guys can be the good guys.
    ..but...

    ...kinda makes you wonder sometimes about the good guys, though...;)
     
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    That is hilarious.
     
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    Yeah, Pirate Bay shares a rebel ethos sprung from the early days of pseudo-anarchist information sharing. It came from the lofty ideal that the more people knew, the more they'd realize they're better than the government/coporations that oppresses everyone. The file sharing scene exists purely on young energy fueled by rep traded as merit and lulz.

    Parlor folk farts out rebel yells, figures they're better than the government and deserve to cut in line.

    Parlor ownership's whole bottom line is transparently craven, packaging their userbase's data into even more grifting ops for like minded folks (Fox News advertisers and FB news "content generators"...)
     
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    Amazon dumping the dish in Parler's lawsuit.

    Ofc Hannity/Tucker/Newmax will say this "stifles speech" while turning a blind eye (with open ears...) to the death threats and calls for treason among the very same hogs that feed in their troughs.

    I will rue the day Cons "break through" the court and install batshit crazy judges that "think" the same way as these Parler shills, Guiliani, or Sydney Powells of the world. This will definitely be one of those 30-50 yr goals for Cons. :(

    Parler’s attempt to get back on Amazon Web Services rejected by judge

    A federal judge today rejected Parler's motion for a preliminary injunction against Amazon Web Services (AWS), scuttling the social network's attempt to quickly get back onto Amazon's Web-hosting platform.

    Parler, which bills itself as a conservative alternative to Twitter, had asked for a court order requiring Amazon to reinstate its Web-hosting service pending a full trial. But "Parler has fallen far short... of demonstrating, as it must, that it has raised serious questions going to the merits of its claims," and it has failed to prove "that the balance of equities tips in its favor, let alone strongly so; or that the public interests lie in granting the injunction," said the ruling by Judge Barbara Jacobs Rothstein in US District Court for the Western District of Washington.

    Parler could still prevail in the case, but it won't be reinstated to Amazon's service in the meantime. Parler accused Amazon of conspiracy in restraint of trade, in violation of the Sherman Act; breach of contract; and tortious interference with business expectancy.

    "AWS disputes all three claims, asserting that it is Parler, not AWS, that has violated the terms of the parties' Agreement, and in particular AWS's Acceptable Use Policy, which prohibits the 'illegal, harmful, or offensive' use of AWS services," Rothstein wrote.

    Amazon warned Parler repeatedly
    Amazon cut off Parler's Web-hosting service on January 10, saying that "we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others." Parler has shown that it "cannot comply with our terms of service and poses a very real risk to public safety," Amazon also said.

    Parler sued Amazon on January 11. Subsequently, Amazon said in a court filing that it issued warnings to Parler about more than 100 violent threats before disconnecting its service. As we wrote in previous coverage, posts that Amazon reported to Parler included calls for "killing a specific transgender person; actively wishing for a race war and the murder of Black and Jewish people; and killing several activists and politicians such as Stacey Abrams, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), and former President Barack Obama."

    Amazon's court filing said:

    This case is not about suppressing speech or stifling viewpoints. It is not about a conspiracy to restrain trade. Instead, this case is about Parler's demonstrated unwillingness and inability to remove from the servers of Amazon Web Services content that threatens the public safety, such as by inciting and planning the rape, torture, and assassination of named public officials and private citizens. There is no legal basis in AWS's customer agreements or otherwise to compel AWS to host content of this nature. AWS notified Parler repeatedly that its content violated the parties' agreement, requested removal, and reviewed Parler's plan to address the problem, only to determine that Parler was both unwilling and unable to do so. AWS suspended Parler's account as a last resort to prevent further access to such content, including plans for violence to disrupt the impending Presidential transition.

    Parler claims are weak, judge finds
    Rothstein's rejection of Parler's motion said that "While Parler has not yet had an opportunity to conduct discovery, the evidence it has submitted in support of the [Sherman Act] claim is both dwindlingly slight, and disputed by AWS. Importantly, Parler has submitted no evidence that AWS and Twitter acted together intentionally—or even at all—in restraint of trade."

    Parler claimed that "by pulling the plug on Parler but leaving Twitter alone despite identical conduct by users on both sites, AWS reveals that its expressed reasons for suspending Parler's account are but pretext." But Rothstein pointed out that "Parler and Twitter are not similarly situated, because AWS does not provide online hosting services to Twitter."

    Parler's breach-of-contract claim is similarly weak, Rothstein wrote. Parler has not denied that it was in violation of its agreement with Amazon at the time of the service termination, and the customer agreement "gives AWS the right either to suspend or to terminate, immediately upon notice, in the event Parler is in breach," Rothstein wrote.

    On the tortious interference claim, "Parler has failed to allege basic facts that would support several elements of this claim" and "has failed to raise more than the scantest speculation that AWS's actions were taken for an improper purpose or by improper means," the judge wrote.

    If Amazon was forced to reinstate Parler's services now, before Parler deploys a more effective moderation system, the result would be "continued posting of the kind of abusive, violent content that caused AWS to shut Parler down in the first place," the ruling said. It continued:

    The Court explicitly rejects any suggestion that the balance of equities or the public interest favors obligating AWS to host the kind of abusive, violent content at issue in this case, particularly in light of the recent riots at the US Capitol. That event was a tragic reminder that inflammatory rhetoric can—more swiftly and easily than many of us would have hoped—turn a lawful protest into a violent insurrection.

    Parler.com is currently online as a static webpage with several posts from conservative figures like Sean Hannity and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), along with a note about "technical difficulties."​
     
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    Not a fascist propaganda and recruiting tool at all.


     
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    Given what Xerobull ust posted above, if they are designated a terror threat, the NSA can more than likely go directly to the source and attain a secret warrant from AWS and whereever else that seditious information was stored/transmitted.

    Using backdoor access from tech majors is what they already do with emails and text, let alone a wholly distributed social platform...
     
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    It needs to happen yesterday.
     
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    What's incredible with the parler vids hosted by propublica is the ability to see different views of what's happening inside and outside the capital. They're like literal flies on the wall during the ensuing chaos, and could open up warrants to confiscate those phones for even more detailed recordings (hillbillies love keeping evidence) to support their CCTV footage.

    And this is only the PG-13 stuff. They aren't that stupid to post people getting hurt on parlor.

    Can you imagine just 10% them carrying or concealing weapons with the greater intent to raise the stakes inside the capital?

    Damn chilling considering the outed DC Chief of Police said on 60 Minutes that he (by extension the police) "did not fail".
     
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    Parler has since found a home in DDoS-Guard, a Russian digital infrastructure company.

    Thanks, Vladimir Putin! What a standup guy!
     
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    [​IMG]

    Metasploit the nopes.
     
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    Jeff Bezos is powerful
    Some of you dummies don’t realize that he controls more than your shipment of electric kettles and hdmi cables
     
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    Can somebody explain what exactly is going on here?

    Asking for a friend.:D
     
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    X-Wing > Vent
     

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