Please help me to find the eyewitness testimony that corroborates the official story. I did just Google it and checked out only sights that I though might corroborate the official story, like Washington post and other news papers, and couldn't find any. I didn't even bother with sights that I new would not. Thanks.
If flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, what happened to it? You seem to be of the mindset that something other than flight 77 slammed into the Pentgaon. What is your speculation as to what happened to flight 77? There is NO evidence that anything happened to flight 77 other than slamming into the Pentagon. Since conspiracy theorists would have us believe that something other than flight 77 slammed into the Pentagon, what do conspiracy theorists speculate happened to flight 77? Point me to some evidence as to what THAT speculation is. You want to start at the beginning, fine. That's a good place to start. Flight 77 took off. It never landed. What happened to it?
Any evidence that they used afterburners? What missiles did they carry? Was it nine minutes after they took off? What are the answers? Keep D&D Civil.
I would assume they were fully loaded. As for real answers - there are none. No data has been released. There are facts and a lot of questions.
I for one assume flight 77 hit the Pentagon and I don't know why the evidence doesn't support that. What happened at the Pentagon is confusing to me. I have not seen enough to believe it wasn't flight 77. That doesn't mean that the official story is truth.
Haven't done it, yet. I guess I should, you think? I just have an extremely hard time believing this was anything more than incompetence and poor planning on a massive scale, going back to when we should have been able to figure out what these maniacs were doing in the States, screwing around with their strange flight training. Keep D&D Civil.
I'm willing to say I bought the official government version for about two years. After recent revelations about the current administration and after seeing some information regarding the attacks, I don't believe the official story anymore. Some people may find it too disturbing to believe they haven't been told the truth by their government, but I believe I have been told a bunch of lies. Sorry, but America today is not a Pollyanna's America.
No doubt - I do too. But allow me to offer up a conversation I had a couple days ago as something to think about: Me: I have a real hard time believing that among the thousands of people that would be required for a conspiracy of this scale - not one has come forward or leaked information. I have a hard time believing no witness to any wrongdoing would come forward. I don't think it's possible. My wife: What about the holocaust? *Stunned silence.* My wife: Think about it - a whole country deluded into thinking this was not really happening. Military members trained to think the opposite - a regime with large control over the media, and a serious inability for whistleblowers to act. Me: Damn. --Touche.
I've been watching these little conspiracy videos since basically 2002, each one gets more and more damning.. it's getting harder and harder to believe that we know what happened. But you have to ask yourself, if not a plane, then what? And if so, then why all the cloak and dagger? Nothing adds up.
It hasn't been for a long time, Saint Louis. I've never believed that Oswald acted alone. Never. Someone certainly covered up one hell of a lot back then, and continues to do so today, but that's another topic. I hold Bush Junior responsible for surrounding himself with an incompetent Cabinet, being too disengaged, ignoring the warnings from the Clinton White House before he took office, and sitting there reading to the *******ed children (bless their hearts) after finding out what happened... and much else, but not doing something this insane. (I haven't read the poop, yet) Keep D&D Civil.
Deckard- You are thinking clearly. We are conditioned to trust the govt. and the media. It is extremely hard to believe that our govt. would be complicit to the murder of 3000+ people for the sake of a military invasion into the middle east. It is horrendous to even think men we vote for could really be that evil. But upon reading enough credible evidence I find it extremely far more difficult to believe that these terrorists penatrated and blinded the national security of the United States of America. Not without the U.S. govt. knowing and having motive to ensure their success.
Please check out the link above - there are photographs of pieces of the plane all over the place and there is evidence of the planes low approach as well (bent light posts, large generator knocked over, etc). At the bottom there are numerous quotes from eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon. Fwiw this is at a website that generally supports conspiracy theories. ____________ That being said i'm sure there is more to the story than we've been told.
As has been pointed out, the questions we should really be concerned about are who, why, and how, not what, when, and where.
I don't know what happened to flight 77? Does that mean that the official story is correct? The official story is that it hit the Pentagon. Maybe it did. Show me the evidence. I look at the evidence and there are some serious wholes in the official story. Why speculate? Let’s just look at the evidence that we do have from an objective eye. You believe that it hit the pentagon because you saw the pentagon burning; you saw planes hit the towers, and the guy on the news said that flight 77 was hijacked and it is what hit the pentagon. Makes since. I hope that is what happened. To speculate on what the alternative might be just leads to semantic arguments. If flight 77 hit the pentagon I would expect the evidence to show that and for my money I'm not sold. By the way thanks for the links to quotes I read them, about half I thought were good on a surface glance. Some things I did find interesting, one guy said it was flight 77, have to through him out, people who witnessed it then went home and watched the news will have to be looked upon with a degree of suspect. They will have seen one thing then they will have been told what happened on the news and their brain will try to make them mesh. It takes a strong belief in what one saw to withstand such a media onslaught. This is not "conspiracy theorists" lingo this just fact. Also be careful throwing around labels like that, it will cause you to immediately ignore information, and such labels are a way to for others to manipulate you. I guess all I would like to see is that people like yourself use the same critical you use for unofficial stories as you do for official stories. In the end I do hope you are right in your assessment
