How about these facts: *Amare has this 2 time (should have been 3 time) MVP Hall of fame pg named Steve Nash. You know Richard Jefferson? Once upon a time people thought he was pretty good as well, when he was feeding of all these lobs and passes from J-kidd, so much so that the Bucks threw a lot of money his way. Apparently people didn't realize that Jefferson benefitted from all the open looks and great passing that Kidd gave him, and that when forced to create his own shot Jefferson was horrible with getting separation from his man. *Before Nash came to town, and WITH Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion on the team PHX was a lottery team. Now Amare will be going into a Knicks team with such luminaries as Gallinari and Mike Miller. Nash won't be going with Amare in a package deal. How will Amare "finish" when no one is able to create for him? *Athleticism doesn't really matter when you don't know how to use it. Also the only athleticism Amare has left is his vertical, that "pure" athelticism you talk about was long gone ever since he had his first microfracture surgery. He isn't as explosive anymore and he's certainly lost some lateral speed. Before his surgery he ran circles around Duncan and co, now he just gets by on his smarts and basketball instincts. It just doesn't look that way because he always moves a step before his opponent and he can still jump out of the building. But someone who's followed his career would see the difference in speed and quickness pre and post injury. *Please don't use PPG to determine a player's offensive prowess-if you put me on the court and I take 200 shots a game I'm sure I'll hit 20 ppg too. What matters is efficiency, and although amare has been pretty efficient that's more due to his shots being dunk attempts near the basket. Unlike someone like DH, Amare's dunk opportunities are due to Nash drawing attention and giving him the rock.
Amare's athleticism is the only thing he has over Lee.. Lee is the more versatile better all around player that gives his all and isnt a diva.. give me that guy over Amare anytime.. Lee doesnt need an all time great PG to set him up to get his, their D is about the same but Amare is lazy as hell and is why Dantoni criticized back in the day but they have reconciled their differences, but NYK gets worse IMHO with this deal
Amar'e is the better player but once you take into account the money involved he isn't that much better. Like most have said, Amar'e has the name but Lee is big time player who will be a BIG asset to who ever signs the guy at a much cheaper rate.
I think the two of them would compliment each other quite well. I know its impossible because of Curry's horrible contract. But, in an Isaiah free world, if the Knicks could have given Curry's money to Lee and then sign Amare and LeBron they would be much better off. (obviously) All of the comparisons between Amare and Lee in this thread show that while they play the same position, they really can't be compared very well.
I believe David Lee is going to get more than $50 million. He will be overpaid just like Amare and Joe Johnson. There is no sense this summer.
I read he was asking for 10-12 million per year for 5 years so that would be right about half or slightly over but still much cheaper.
Amare is not really a post player he is purely a post face up player. I haven't seen him make post moves at all in this sense he isn't a conventional big man. Joining the discussion though, I think the one thing Amare did that David Lee couldn't do is dominate both Gasol and Bynum the way Amare did in the playoffs for like 40 points. With Gasol and Bynum's length you need pure athleticism and hangtime to bang and draw fouls the way Amare did.
OK, let's see what happens. I think he was asking for that before the summer of insanity started. He may get a lot more now. Either way, I think the Knicks and whatever team makes a rich man out of David Lee, will both regret it.
again, this is a popular answer because amare is a bigger name, but can you actually backup this statement? most seem to have trouble doing so. take into consideration cost and durability and you might find it even harder to backup that statement. i'm not saying your wrong, i'm saying that people often don't look past the name.
numbers, durability, and cost mean EVERYTHING! lol if you tell me a player puts up better numbers, will take up less cap space, and play in more games each season... then yes thats the better player regardless of how many jerseys he sells.
What does the name have to do with it? Can you read people's minds? For me, it's watching them play. Amare is an impact player; a difference-maker. David Lee is nothing of the sort. Other than his stat line last season, why David Lee is getting so much love here is completely beyond me. Maybe he is this summer's version of Stromile Swift or Ramon Sessions on Clutchfans. He's a nice player, but we are talking about David Lee!
I had this nightmare: we signed Bosh, and he blew out his knee the third game of the season. That's the thing about Scola. Man could blow out his knee and it wouldn't matter. He'd just keep running full-speed the entire season. Sign Scola!
Stoudemire's performance is going to have a big slide like Marion, Post-Nash. Life isn't so sweet, when you have Toney Douglas setting you up.
name has nothing to do with who's better. that's just my point. people assume that amare has to be better than david lee because... well because "we're talking about david lee!" lee costs less, will play more games, and puts up similar numbers. i don't see the advantage of going with amare. don't get me wrong, i'm willing to be convinced. but all i hear from the opposing view is amare is better because hes better.
so you are saying Lee is better than Yao pretty much. Maybe in those categories. Yao and Amare are impact(impact the game) players. More so than Lee.
