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Amare Stoudemire vs Chris Bosh

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by OldSchool34, Jan 22, 2010.

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Who's the better player between the two?

  1. Amare Stoudemire

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  2. Chris Bosh

    80.2%
  1. Rockets4279

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    That'd be some what odd if Houston was trying to land both. I know it don't make much sence at all with Yao Ming, but imagine Amare and Bosh?
     
  2. roslolian

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    they're both similar but anyone who takes amare is not thinking of the future. Bosh is younger and doesn't have knee or eye injuries. Why would you take an older and more injury prone Bosh over the current Bosh? Plus, Amare has had to play with an elite playmaker like Nash his entire career. I think Phx lost almost all of their games without Nash, if Amare was really a premier big man he should have stepped up in those games.
     
  3. jason3333

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    bosh is better, but i will take them both in a heartbeat
     
  4. Easy

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    Define "winner" please.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    Clutch Fans overwhelmingly vote Chris Bosh. They know what they are talking about. Bosh is the superior defender, he plays all 94 feet. He has played on some doggy teams and carried them. Amare would have parked in the garage if he had to play on Bosh's teams. Amare is a freak...and a great offensive player from 15 feet in, and occasionally he comes weakside for a huge highlight center block. Amare is the best ESPN all-highlight team player. Bosh is the superior NBA player.
     
  6. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Amare did average 20 PPG the year before Nash arrived, but his FG% jumped about 10% immediately upon Nash's arrival and hasn't gone back down since.
     
  7. towW

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    Bosh has a better overall game but he is soft. Amare is a banger if he could get some coaching from the Dream he could be Hakeem Lite. He has the body type.
     
  8. towW

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    Oh yeah and I vote for Amare he will be more useful. Defensively and Reboundively. He has a jumpshot to create space for Yao. He could start along side and backup for Yao.
     
  9. SuperStar

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    Bosh because he's a better rebounder and more skilled. Amare is allergic to defense.
     
  10. towW

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    True true. Bosh plays harder defense. If Amare would try on defense he would be a beast. All he needs to do is body up and block shots.
     
  11. tmacROX1

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    bosh. cause he take his game outside and cause touble for some big men. amare can shoot little jump shos though.
     
  12. OldSchool34

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    Even if Amare doesn't try as hard on the defensive end, It's still better than Bosh even when he is trying. I'm not sure whether he's that soft or whether he's that weak. Amare has improved his shot blocking ability over his years. Yes, Bosh is the superior rebounder. But I don't why you guys think Bosh is the superior defender, makes no sense. There's nothing he does better except defending the pick n roll.
     
  13. OldSchool34

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    Dude, Amare has been a 20+ PPG scorer before Nash even went to Phoenix. In the 2nd half of the 2003-2004 season, he averaged 25/10 with Leandro Barbosa as his starting PG. Stop with the B.S that Amare needs some type of PG to score, Yes Nash gives him easy looks but it's not like his game is completely based off of that.
     
  14. ArtisGilmore

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    1.0 bpg this year, and 1.1 bpg last year, just about the same as Chris Bosh. Amare is no shot blocker.

    Amare is possibly the worst big man defender in the league, he lets people just seal him in deep position and/or drive around him. He has the physical tools to be much better but clearly he doesn't want to bother playing D.

    Also, Amare is the rare (and deadly for his team's defense) combination of a guy that plays no defense but is very foul prone. He leads the league in personal fouls, commits 3.7 per game.

    Whatever defense Bosh is playing, it's better than Amare's. Amare's defense is on the level of Eddy Curry's defense. It's that bad.
     
  15. OldSchool34

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    Yep, in the past years Amare has been playing worse defense than 2 years ago when he was considered MVP caliber by the NBA and by Steve Nash. I remembered he completely improved his defense and his future looked brighter because he started blocking more shots and focusing more on defense when Shaq came around. He averaged around 2+ BPG at the end of the 07-08 season.

    That being said, Amare also averages 2 BPG in the playoffs as well. What does Bosh average? -2?
     
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  17. ArtisGilmore

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    That year was clearly a fluke shot blocking wise, he's been at 1.1 and 1.0 this and last year, and shot blocking does not tell the entire story defense wise.

    If we're talking about what he did in the playoffs, here's a sample.

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    So the fact that he blocks a few shots makes it better that scrubby post players like Kwame Brown can score on him almost at will? This video is also no fluke for Amare, this is how Amare plays defense; lazily allowing his man to seal him right in front of the rim, letting them blow right by him, committing cheap fouls. Highlight reel blocks (at 1 bpg per game) don't change that.
     
  18. OldSchool34

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    Oh Ok, I see what you're saying. A season can be a fluke, but a play can't. :rolleyes:

    I'm sorry, but Amare didn't let a washed up Shaq score 45 on his sorry butt either and if he did I doubt Amare would be butt-hurt enough to say he cheated. But...But...But.... He didn't let Kwame dunk on him. :rolleyes:

    But I'll play your game.

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  19. LifeisButaDream

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    That would not happen here in Houston.see what happened to t-mac trying that crap.
     
  20. baller4life315

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    Bosh is clearly the better overall player right now. Amare had a case a few years back whenever he was one of the most unguardable players in the league, but he's seemingly regressed a bit in that regard. Amare has never shown any improvements on the defensive end which is very disappointing for a player with his natural abilities. Bosh is actually starting to get "it" and is still improving. Plus, he's younger. Right now, this isn't even close.
     

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