Amare Stoudemire Trying to Talk Smack about our PF?

The problem with the Suns game plan (at least last night, I haven't watched any of their other games so I can't speak for their entire season) is that they are focusing too hard on getting Shaq the ball. Phoenix is, and always will be as long as they have Nash and Amare, a running team. They looked uncomfortable and downright sluggish in the half-court set. Half the times they gave Shaq the ball, Amare looked completely out of place on the opposite post, like he didn't know what he was doing. He has developed a nice jumper, but it is not the main part of his game. It's a great complementary addition, but when he has to rely on it for the majority of his points, that's when he becomes ineffective. The fact that they had ZERO FAST BREAK POINTS is a testament to the fact that Porter hasn't yet figured out how to use his players. This is the PHOENIX SUNS we're talking about.

 

Yep. I bet their gameplan was to try and take advantage of a bad-performing Yao. Yao stepped up, played a solid game, not great, but damn solid with something like 15 boards.

Phx is good when they run the PnR with Nash and whoever, mainly Amare. Why they decided not to do that last night, who knows? Their fault, our win.

 

A lot of people who don't watch basketball and just see the box score don't realize this. Though I will admit that his jumper is pretty reliable. He's not a guy who you can throw the ball to in an isolated situation and get a bucket.

 

Nothing wrong with his comments. Wouldn't you want your star PF to say that he should be dominating the opposing defenders? Amare is just not a catch and dunk guy. He scored 49 points the other night. Are yall telling me he scored all with nothing but catches and dunks? So what if he isn't a back to the basket post player like Duncan. The way he plays, works best for him. Taking mid range jumpers, and putting the ball on the floor and attacking the rim. Yes, he has a jumper, if you don't think so, you aren't watching him play.

 

cmon pple, stop being so sensitive. if youre amare stoudamire do you wanna get shut down by scola, hayes, or landry? all undersized bigs? HELL NO. amare talks like that a lot and so do a lotta other guys. get with it, amares a baller, he shoulda broke scolas hand last night but o well

 

Should, but couldn't. How sad. How about not bringing up not dominating people you should have dominated.

It's like saying I know I am smarter than those guys although we got the same score on the test.

Sounds like they took you out of your game.

 

David West might wanna tell you otherwise.

 

He will never dominate Hayes#44 unless you compare points. But he isn't gonna do whatever he wants to do on the offense if Hayes is on him.

 

I hate to question anyone's knowledge of hoops or hoop watching, but its obvious that you haven't watched Amare since his rookie year. His 15-17 jimmy is money. Its as good as any guard,wing or big man. Now is he a bang,bank, drop step post player? No, but he's effective down there because of his quickness,explosion, and relentlesness which is needed. He's a really good ft shooter and he gets fouled a lot because of his aggression. He is the reason gm's take very atheletic players and hope they have the work ethic to get their skill level up to their atheleticism. Please watch more recent games.

 

There's nothing wrong with what he said. You're a superstar, you're expected to win those match ups.

I agree with the general notion that something wasn't right with Amare last night. When's the last time he shot only two FT's in a game? When's the last time you saw him reluctant to attack the basket?

Maybe it was Porter trying to focus too much on trying to get Shaq involved? I don't know. The ironic part is the Shaq trade was made so Shaq could funnel pressure away from Amare. Very puzzling to see him struggle in a game where Shaq seemingly did all the dirty work.

 

He get slowed down last night, because the opposition actually played defense against him. You don't score 40 to 50 points a game when teams make a concerted effort to stop you or if the other teams has decent defenders.

Also, he hasn't been playing that well, lately anyway. Besides, Houston doesn't usually let people go off on them for 40 and 50 point explosions. Not with the quality of defenders and defensive strategies.

 

Amare got OWNED by our power forwards! HAHAHA!!!

 

Scola can be a pest on the perimeter but his interior defense is weak. He is slow-footed and seems to play small for a 6'10 player on both ends. Opponents shoot over him with ease while he tries to shoot under them or around them on the other end. I'd like to see Scola finishing over players more on the offensive end and doing a better of job of keeping opposing players in front of him on defense. He also needs to improve his defensive awareness, especially after shots go up. He too often forgets about his man and fails to box out.

Landry has some of the same problems defensively but is better at finishing over players at the offensive end. I'd like to see Landry develop some post moves. He seems to have good enough ballhandlings skills, footwork and quickness to improve in this area.

 

shoulda coulda woulda...

 

He should have dominated against Scola. Scola couldn't even stay in front of Dirk.

 

Last nights game was not the pace or style of game that I would expect Stoudemire to dominate. Stat line that shows it. Zero fast break points. Stoudemire has been awesome for the Suns because his skills fit their flow and go kind of offense the suns run so well when their at their best. In that system he played free and did not have to be "the guy" in the offense that had to score. In that kind of game he dominates by playing off good passers who are also scoring threats on the fast break or on pick and rolls. The rest of his points come from out quicking single defenders to the basket, or hitting open jumpers (this year). In that type of fast and flowing game like the Suns used to employ regularly before Shaq, he kills our power forwards. But in a slower game, with Shaq causing congestion in the paint, I think he loses a lot. He doen't post up well and seems to have trouble with determined half court D while playing little defense himself. He wasn't going to dominate our 4's, given the type of game it was, as long as they played could enought defense to deny him spots, and contest his jumpers. This is especially true of Hayes who of the three PF's who was probably show the least respect of the three given defense is his claime to fame.

 

When Nash got owned by Rafer and Brooks, Amare could do nothing (but talk) to dominate anybody.

 

that is the biggest puzzle to me. what is terry porter doing?

i've only watched the suns twice this year (incl. last night), so i don't want to pretend. but from what i saw, they try to go to shaq too much. if amare complains about last night's game for not having gotten enough touches, i won't blame him.

on the other hand, with nash aging, amare's effectiveness is going to come down some. without a pg like nash, he could easily get lost in the offense. and we all know his defense has never been that great.

 

anyone without the lakers on his list isn't a true rockets fan.

just saying.

 

what a loser. Anyone notice him laughing and joking with shaq at the final few minutes? And the team was losing..

maybe thats what he was saying,

Amare: Shaq, i should have dominate the rox PFs tonite, and we will get the win instead.

Shaq: Meh, i move pile, and we still lost.