I always thought baseball was the only sport with no trade clauses. The T-Wolves are probably lucky that Garnett didn't want the trade. The "superstar for a bunch of role players" trade rarely works out for the team that gets the bunch of role players. Plus, every pick after #2 this year is really a crapshoot. Garnett and Pierce would easily win the Atlantic Division. Hell, Garnett probably could have made it to the EC Finals.
I would hope that the Wolves don't deal KG to the Suns. But if it happens get back Amare and Barbosa with the possibility of #9 also.
No but he has said he would opt out of his contract after next season. So, essentially you are trading all this young talent (in Boston's case) for a guy who is only going to be there for one season. It was the same situation with McGrady - we had to get him to sign an extension before we traded for him because we needed the protection that he wasn't going to leave after just one season. Back on topic - if the Suns could get Garnett without having to give up Amare - well, that would be unreal and you would have to consider them the favorites to win it all. Hell, even if they trade Amare to Minny, I think you still have to consider the Suns to be the favorite (Garnett is easily the better defender than Amare). I would be a little hesistant to do this deal straight up, though, because of the age difference. It will be interesting to see what Steve Kerr and company do on this.
Yeah...not sure why KG shot this down. Paul Pierce is perfect for KG. Not only that, Boston is a great sports town and would embrace the hell out of KG. Pierce, KG, and a couple spare parts would be better than the eastern conference representative in this years finals.
I hope KG doesn't go to Phoenix cause that would be a nightmare matchup for the Rockets. totally exploiting our weaknesses at PF and PG.
KG is a fool for turning down boston. they would have won the east for the next 3 years and boston would have embraced him as the messiah.
Boston hasn't had great management nor coaching since Ainge got there. Boston was last in the East last season and besides Pierce, there isn't many other valuable pieces in place for a championship run. Remember the Walker-Pierce days, the Celtics had two good palyers with a bunch a bad or average role players. I think he'd love to go to Phoenix instead as rumored. Phoenix is already a title contender and KG wouldn't have to carry as big an offensive load on that team. Garnett is getting older and he'd rather be in a "win now" situation, rather than a three-year plan.
KG is content in Minny, thats what you don't realize. He doesn't care about the game or winning anymore, just the money and security he has.
Actually, many Boston fans are relieved the trade didn't go through. Thats because they hail Al Jefferson as their Messiah. They consider him the NEXT BIG THING, which I don't get. I think he'll be good, but not on the level of Dwight Howard or anything. In any case, they are better off keeping Jefferson and turning down KG who's been in the league 12 years already.
The only way an Amare for KG trade goes down is if the #7 pick is traded to the Suns and the ATL pick remains with the Suns.
The latest rumor has Garnett goes to Suns, Sun send Marion to Celtics, Celtics send 5th pick to Wolves... Nash+Garnett+Stoudemire. We'd better go get Kobe somehow.
i dont understand why everyone is so high on amare and so undervaluing marion. if im phoenix, marion allows me to play my style and does it well. amare is a great finisher and dunker, while marion does everything else. rebounds, blocks, defense, assists. he's got an all around game. marion seriously is a hugely undervalued asset to that team. wheras they already proved they can play without amare and still make the western conference finals. kg down low and high post with marion floating around? thats a force right there. kg/amare together pushes kg way out, making him less effective (although still great). i just think everyone seems to be overvaluing amare (helped out by the system) but moreso seriously undervaluing marion (helps make the system). not to mention even that youd have to give up marion plus other pieces.
Thing is, KG gives the Suns almost everything Marion does, PLUS another guy besides Nash that can create for himself or others (Marion creates opportunities about as well as Luther Head). Also, trading Marion instead of Amare allows Phoenix's best finisher to remain on the team.
I wonder if then Amare would still think he's the best player other than Steve Nash on that team. I wonder if he'll throw a fit since Garnett would steal his thunder.
Marion for Garnett makes a lot of sense, but why would you trade Amare for Garnett? Stoudemire is just as dominant of a player, I remember before the injury in the 05 Conf Finals vs. San Antonio, the guy was putting up like 40 and 15 a night on the Spurs. Amare and Garnett are similar player, however Amare is younger. If I was the Phoenix Suns, I would call up Mitch Cupchak, and offer up Marion, Diaw, that draft pick and maybe something else and go after Kobe. They have a one of the the best, if not THE best big man in Amare, they don't need Garnett.
I just dont see how this 3 way trade can work when both KG and Marion can opt out next year. Marion certainly doesnt want to play for Celtics or T-Wolves. McHale is a dumb ass and didnt trade KG in trade deadline to the Bulls. I can even see this 3 way wont work and McHale may need to ring Kupchak on Thursday b4 draft to re-enter talking with the Lakers again.
The best big man? I have to disagree. Yao, Duncan, Garnett are all Much better. Amare does not do everything Garnett does. Garnett is an allround player, he can do everything, and her is also a great defender. Stoudemire can finish around the basket better then Garnett, but that is the only thing he does better. The thing Stoudemire has in his advantage is its age. Because of his age i would rather trade Marion for Garnett then Stoudemire. That being said if i was the suns i would trade either of them in a heartbeat for garnett. Like others have said, Nash Garnett (and either Marion or Stoudemire) would mean a championship.