Amare Stoudemire a Rocket? The Rockets will try but come up short

I'm sure Morey is way smarter than that. Amare is not the solution for Rox to championship, unless Rox gives up minimum talent.

 

Correct.An additional backup 5 will also help.

 

Not only can the Suns get better offers than from the Rockets, but they need a PF who can play solid defense and not demand the ball. Scola won't demand the ball and has improved as a rebounder, but he can't play defense.
Ron might also may not prove to be an ideal fit for them either.

 

If this column is anything to go by Artest might be a player Kerr is high on.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=sk-artest021106&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

IMO it's a mistake trading Artest instead of McGrady.

 

I don't believe that they wouldn't trade Nash, I think that the Suns would trade Nash, Barbossa, or Amare if they got the right deal. Any of the Dantoni guys are up for trade I gurantee it. The only reason they actually came out and said Amare was on the block is to see what offers were out there and what they could package together. Barbossa and Nash are both working their butts off for the Suns so why make it public that they are tradeable just so they can get pissed and start losing games for them. Amare is already toasted as far as the Suns are concerned and frankly I wouldn't want him on the Rockets.

I would however take Nash simply because he is the facilator on that team, everything is ran through him and we really need a point guard that can not only make his teammates better but who is also a good clutch shooter and a great 2nd scoring option if Yao is doubled or tripled. Nash has better stats in every category then Rafer.

This is why when you are creating a team you don't rely on a computer or stats to plug players in to an artificial team. There is more to it then just numbers the players put up. There's locker room turmoil, divas, resentment, and to many opinions going around to have some room for error on creating a dream team. Morey I beg you don't bring Amare here it will be the beginning of the end.

 

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/art_garcia/02/04/western.insider.20090204/index.html

Suns: Alston, Bayless (Suns get under LT)

Blazers: McGrady

Rockets: Nash, LaFrentz, Freeland (draft rights) (Rockets stay under LT)

Grizzlies: Diogu + cash considerations from Suns/Blazers

The Blazers have many other young players to to get the Suns interested but the main thing is getting under LT. I think if that's a possibilty for the Suns they'll do it in a heart beat.

 

A team like Phoenix would be GREAT with a big time scorer...because of Shaq, Amare just CANT be that guy. Nash can't cuz he's the playmaker.

t_mac1 said it best....the Suns have NO identity...they are so screwed up offensively, they can't see straight. I tell yall this, if PHX still had Joe Johnson, they would be the absolute HARDEST team to stop, but that's a story for another day, ladies and gents.

Anyway, the Suns are going to deal Amare before the Feb. 19 deadline. PERIOD. No if, and or buts. You can quote me, or do whatever, but he's out.

What are the Suns looking for? Young talent and Expiring deals. What kind of expiring deals you ask? Something that can get them more money off the cap for the 2010 sweepstakes. If that means getting a player that comes off the books NEXT year, then so be it. But you have to wonder what they want as it pertains to contracts...this year, next year or BOTH. With young players, I'm certain that there are teams that would love to part ways with a young player or 2 in order to get a dynamic all star big man like Stoudamire.

What the Rockets can offer? Well, you have to believe that Ron Artest would be apart of any deal. So the question would then be: Who in the blue hell would go with Artest? It's a variety of players...Landry is one (young talent), Scola (young talent), Brooks (young talent), and Head (young talent, but really a throw in to make money match). I'm sure there are others, but those are the PRIME candidates.

Would it work for us? Of course it could work. One thing about the Rockets is they know how to get excellent chemistry with the players they have. It's been like this since 2004. Also, Amare is a very explosive player who can drive to the basket, even from the 4 position. He has become a pretty much money from mid-range.

Why it can't? Offensively, we have had a few issues with ball stopping, standing around and bad bad shot selection. With Stoudamire, he's going to want the ball some which could cause some ball stopping and standing around. On Defense, since the turn of the new year, we have been borderline 2002 mavs-like on that end. So getting a player that shows no desire to play Defense like Amare wouldn't help in that particular department. Stoudamire is not the hustler that someone like Scola, Landry or Hayes are at the 4 position. Let's not forget about his possible struggle on the offensive end with Yao at the 5. I only bring that up since he seems to struggle in the half court with Shaq currently.

Chances of it happening? I'll put it at 37%. It's that high because they might actually speak (the two sides) and Amare is indeed up for a possible trade.

I'm personally on the fence about this whole thing. One side its intresting and sounds nice but on the flip, I'm so got damn worried about our defense, I just don't f'n know.

 

Nice article find. I like the trade you made also but here's one I have been lobbying for around a month now. It helps out Houston, Phoenix, and Detroit who all need some help right now. I could see this trade actually happening because it appears Phoenix is trying to obtain expiring contracts due to their owners financial problems.

Detroit gets: Amare Stoudemire, Goran Dragic, Luther Head

Houston gets: Steve Nash, Robin Lopez

Phoenix gets: Ron Artest, Rafer Alston, Allen Iverson

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...~25~2763&teams=8~10~10~8~21~21~21~8&te=&cash=

 

Our defense would be so f'n bad LOL

 

http://phoenix.fanster.com/2009/02/05/sunsblazers-deal-in-the-works/

Boooo.

 

Good let them have him, they will curse the day they bring in Amare and let go of Rudy. Both of those dumb ass team's deserve each other.

 

Hey DD, what do you think of this one?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1981~497~11~25~3421~2763&teams=10~10~4~9~9~4&te=&cash=

 

Not a good trade. Yao & Scola or Yao & Landry work well because there is no question who the go to guy is in the paint.

Amare would want the ball as much or more than Yao and that won't work.

Our biggest upgrade is a PG, or trading Artest for somebody that would fit better than Artest.

 

I like this trade.

 

While DM the GM is talking to Kerr always the Spur they shoud talk about Nash. Rafer and Battier make sense; in both directions.

Amare for Brand?

 

Hell ---> to the -----> No. He is just a taller and more polished version of Landry. He will command big money. On our team.... Artest > Amarie. Plus the knee.

 

look at Denver, when they got K-Mart he sucked. But he came back to life when they got Billups... Yep, Rox need needneedneed a PG (no apologies to any senior poster for this (duh) message.

 

Is this a joke?

I want to reiterate premier PG's like Andre Miller and Steve Nash aren't on the market. There is a premium in the NBA on being a good floor general, it's a lot more valuable in today's league then the early 90's.

 

Amare isn't coming to the Rockets. People are so desperate for change they forget to use logic.

1. Phoenix - 8th in the West, Rockets - 6th. Conference Rivals approaching palyoffs... definitely not a Gasol or Scola type situation.
2. Amare has been complaining about his touches and being in the scheme of the offense with Shaq, who has a similar presence to Yao on the floor
3. Amare is the Allen Iverson of PF's (his play doesn't correlate to winning, won't go over well with Morey)

However I would like to see an offensive juggernaut on this team since a premier PG isn't on the market (Billups for TMac would have been great). McGrady is a fragment of his old self, Yao has struggled to consistently dominate in Adelman's system, and everyone else relies on good chemistry and ball movement to get points. Artest is going to be very valuable in the playoffs with his ability to shut down premier isolation players. I would put Battier and Landry on the market in return for someone like John Salmons who can aggressively play the point.

 

It's another expiring contract. All these "assets" you are saying are nothing more than players with contracts of their own. You manage to get Stoudamire and keep Tmac and Yao Ming then you have aroung 60 Million or so expiring two years from now. You think Dwade/Lebron/Bosh would pass up a chance to play with Yao Ming + another Max player? I'd tank this season as well so I'd have a lottery pick + Yao + 2 max players. A little pain, a decade of gain