Amare Stoudemire a Rocket? The Rockets will try but come up short

And that was a few years ago.

This team already has a problem with showing up to games they should win.

Sheed is the definition of a guy who doesn't always show up for games.

 

This would be a sick lineup.

Brooks/Barry
Yao/Deke
Scola/Hayes
Stoudamire/Battier
McGrady/Wafer

trade Alston, Landry, Dorsey, Artest, and some 2nd round picks to get Stoudamire.

Suns get a legitimate backup for Nash. A young power forward capable of getting a double double everynight if he had more minutes. An awesome lockdown defender but also an expiring contract. Plus a nice rebounder and shot blocker in Dorsey.

 

Well it may not be for Amare, but i believe Ron will be gone come the trade deadline, i don't see him resigning or being resigned and i doubt Morey won't try to get something for him before he walks this summer.

 

Don't tell me RA is a defensive coach.

Nobody leaves Landry and Scolar wide open nowadays unless they are away from basket. Amare will be an upgrade on offense, but not by that much. He won't be an upgrade on defense, and certainly a downgrad in hustle department. Look at the huge salary difference, it's simply not worth it.

Amare is way overrated, his impact is much less than most fans think. Before his injury, he couldn't past West final with Nash in his peak plus Marion and Joe Johnson despite huge offensive stats(he gave pretty much all back to Duncan anyways). The year he sit out, Suns still got to west final.

 

Without Nash, Amare is only better than average power forward. He does not fit with Yao's game. Rockets need a better pg like DD said.

 

And please don't make the MJ Sam Bowie compare. At that time how they would play in NBA were unknown. do you think any sane person would still take MJ after a few years in NBA?

Amare is a different story, we alrady have seen enough, he simply isn't what Rox needed most at this moment.

 

i can't respond to that statement. you're talking an all-nba performer here.

like i said, you give me an all-nba player, i don't care what happens. it won't fit this year. but we'll make it fit. you don't deny a chance at an all-nba player.

 

I mean still take Bowie over MJ?

 

are the rox headed for a championship at this rate? what the rox need now is a young stud who they can build around later on. yao is 28. tracy is 30. those guys will be done in 2-3 years.

amare hasn't had problems with his knee for 2 years now. and we can't predict the future.

like i said, gimme a superstar now. worry about the future later.

 

SF3 and Marbury once were all-nba players too. And those trades proved to be failure. Zach Randolph to NY as well. They all have one thing in common: Good offense, bad defense. Their impact to their team are always overrated.

 

More intriguing is the fact that if you land Amare without giving up Tracy (maybe Scola + Artest), you have the cap flexibility to go after not one but two of the premiere free agents in 2010 to pair up with Yao (Wade + Bosh anyone?). I think that is close to 40 million coming off the books, while still remaining a strong team for the next year and a half.

While that in itself is intruiging...I must admit I don't really like Amare personally, he seems to have caused alot of turmoil in the Phoenix organization and I have personally been pushing for a defensive athletic long 4, and we all know Amare doesnt play D. But then again Amare might actually thrive in Adelmans system and actually cut to the basket.

While its fun to dream I think the odds of this happening are VERY low. I personally predict a Bosh for Amare swap. But then again, Morey has been known to be quite the negotiator. No one saw the Artest deal coming.

 

Another max contract means much less talented role players, Amare won't make Rox a chamption either. Instead, it will tie up Rox's flexibility.

Amare is no TD, no Garnett. He's a "superstar" only because he's overrated. His impact is never near superstar status.

 

zach randolph made all-nba teams? he was considered a superstar? he was considered a top 3 big men in the game? no

steve francis, i'd get him again if he was healthy in his prime. in his prime, he put up 20, 5, 5. you give me that talent, i take it. and francis had good years here.

marbury, dude was just greedy and wanted money/fame. that led to the downfall of his career.

amare actually wants to win. he actually brings his game to another level once the playoffs starts. and he actually IMPROVES his game every year (offensively anyways).

 

gimme amare or else!! (j/k)

agree with every word you said there.

good night everyone. i will now go dreaming.

 

i posted this trade in the nba dish

i still prefer it over having amare on the rockets

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...25~2763&teams=10~21~21~10~1~1~21~21&te=&cash=

 

dude, we're not going anywhere now with this group as it is right now. yao's not gonna get any better. tracy is one the decline. unless you know for sure in 2010 we're getting a superstar, if we can get this chance now, GRAB IT. then build around amare later.

 

Randolph is not all-nba, but same type of overrated player that is. The point for SF3 and Marbury is they are also overated. Francis had good years here, stats wise. Marbury too, Amare too.

Everybody want's to win, but not everybody wants to sacrifice their stats for win. Marbury, Amare are same in that department.

I don't know how "Amare improves every year, takes his game to another leve in playoffs", yet got eliminated earlier each year.

 

If it's a requirement for the suns to get under LT for a deal to be done... That's $4.612253M they need to shed.

McGrady, Blazers, and Grizzlies will also need to be involved. Only if the Rockets require they stay under LT themselves.

Houston: Amare + LaFrentz, Rockets stay under LT
Suns: Artest + Shavlik, Phoenix get under LT
Blazers: McGrady, add 3rd cornerstone which they can't do in FA anymore and laFrent'z expiring contract is use the trade asset or lose it
Grizzlies: Outlaw or Diogu(exp) or Frye(exp), add in cash considerations from Suns/B;azers and they make some money if it's Frye/Diogu


Alternativey a 3 way deal involving Houston, Phoenix, and Portland for Nash would also work money-wise that also keeps with the requirement that the Suns & Rockets are under LT after the deal.

 

It's too early to say if we are going anywhere. We played strong teams quite well so far this year. Bring in Amare there simply won't be enough ball to share.

Again, Amare's impact is nowhere near superstar status. He got overrated by his flashy style , his offensive ability and Suns offense style in previous.

 

The reason you don't make the Jordan/Bowie comparison is because in that day, the NBA was built around centers.

As for Amare, he's too much of a disruption for my tastes.