Amare Stoudemire a Rocket? The Rockets will try but come up short

I believe Amare is great too, you are missing my point, we are GOOD ENOUGH at PF already.

We have MORE GLARING WEAKNESSES to address.

Adding a better PF is treading water....

If you still have Rafer in there, teams can play 5 on 4 and ignore Rafer.

Do you honestly want the team's overall success dicatated by it's worst player?

Upgrading Rafer is more important than upgrading PF...and if you trade Brooks you are now trading our only hope at a better PG for the playoffs.....unless you get a PG in a subsequent trade.

DD

 

You aren't getting rid of Scola and Landry....only one of them.

Yes, Rafer isn't, but there is still no viable PG upgrade that is attainable...that doesn't mess up the teams "supposed" goal of being a player in 2010. Can you think of a deal that ie better than an expiring, one of our PF's and a throw in like Head or Brooks? Granted...again, I don't see us getting Amare. But if a deal would happen it would be on the cheap for something like that, and there is no PG that we can attain that meets the teams goals....or at least no one in this thread has named one. You keep throwing Hinrich out there but his contract is garbage, so I don't see us obtaining him.

 

I'm not here to slam AB. In fact, I've supported the guy. I will say that we definitely have a different opinion of him. That's cool.

I'm not saying it's not a concern. It was not a chronic thing though. He did have a major knee opration. They tried to bring him back too soon, and that led to the other operations. Since then, he's been fine. Same thing happened with gilbert Arenas. It remains to be seen how he will come out. He still is posterizing guys left and right. Yao's injuries stem from his size. That's why he is a cosntant injury risk. Personally, it's different then Amare. Again, we can agree to disagree here too.

I look at the same thing. I think a TMac/Amare pick and roll would be deadly. I also see Yao and him co-existing with no problem. That's just my opinion. I don't see how Corey maggette fits here. I never read anything other then the name so I'm admittedly curious to see why you feel that way. He's everything you criticized Amare for minus the talent Amare has. Not saying he's not talented, but he's already been way overpaid and is a typical scorer on a bad team.

Fair enough. I don't put any value on Artest for this team. Landry and Brooks are fine with me , but I'd move them. I'd actually have more of a problem moving Scola then any of those guys. Losing Artest, Brooks and Landry is far from gutting our team. Amare can play PF and Center, is a much better scorer then artest, and can fit in with an uptempo lineup.

 

YOU ARE RIGHT!!!

Now who can we go get that doesn't mess up the cap situation in 2010? Les has already stated he wants to play that summer IIRC. Hinrich doesn't fall in that category. Atlanta is not sending us Bibby. Who else??

 

His contract gets smaller every year, and I don't think his contract is garbage nor is Maggettes......both are highly efficient players.

I think TMac's contract is garbage.

I guess when we are looking at the same things and can not agree on the core, we are not going to agree....

Hinrich to me, is the perfect complimentary player to Yao and Tmac etc.....I would also take Andre Miller.

DD

 

Morey said the Rockets aren't saving up for 2010 like every other team

 

There is an article on Morey in this thread where he says that they are not concerned like other teams in making moves with 2010 in mind.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=162125

 

That doesn't mean anything. Its all about who would win the series. Amare dominated Tim Duncan 2 or 3 years ago but the Suns lost.

 

I understand your point. I think you're missing mine. With Amare, it's not just adding a PF. It automatically solves the backup center issue (and makes it a strength of ours), gives us a legitimate threat down the stretch, an elite player who is only 26, a guy who can attack the basket who has range out to the 3 point line, ect.......We still need to score points. Artest isn't doing that. It's clear he doesn't fit here. TMac isn't the same guy and Yao isn't always aggressive. Amare is always aggressive.

It's funny because we have agreed on this before. I suggested a guy like Steve Blake. You and I were on the same page. I think Rafer would be a good backup pg. I still think we can pick up a Blake type. I'm not as high on Hinrich as you are. I've just watched his game decline. I know Derrick Rose has a lot to do with it, but you have to wonder why a team drafts a pg with the 1st pick if they don't see the same thing. The Bulls have tons of other needs.

I think you'd be surpised at Brooks real trade value. He's not going to land you any beter then an Earl Watson or Antonio Daniels at this point. I wouldn't make those deals for Brooks , but I'm just making a point. It's very hard to secure a good pg now. I know you are key on fitting in (and I agree) , so you realize guys like Felton and Miller don't fit what we are looking for. Neither can shoot

 

Are the Rockets trying to field a team of Injured All-Stars? They can bring Francis back for PG.

If Phoenix isn't sure their medical team can take care of Amare any longer, the Rockets shouldn't take him.

The Rockets need to trade for healthy players with teams cutting salary.

 

I challenge you to find a worse contract then Corey Maggette's right now. Not piling on at all. I'd just like to see one. The Warriors are crying over that deal now and have been desperately trying to move Maggette. They are willing to dangle anyone on their roster and a top pick to get someone to take him on. The phone still isn't ringing

 

Its crazy how fast Francis has fell off. Lol and to think people actually thought he would come back and shock people. Even Ron Artest saying watch out for Steve Francis. Lol What a joke. Had my hopes up and everything

 

I would in a heartbeat if they would include barbosa. If not, i'd still be fine with wafer at PG and barry actually handling pg duty at SG.

 

rashard lewis?

Ronnie Turiaf?


maggette contract is bad but lewis is the new juwan howard man.

 

Vince Carter, Ben Wallace, Wally Scherbiack (sp?), I could go on and on

 

Rashard Lewis is an All-Star on one of the best teams in the East. He's overpaid, but not like Maggete.

 

Vince Cater is not a bad contract. The Spurs have interest in him, and he's playing great. Wally is an expiring deal for 13 million. Are you serious? Wallace is bad, but at least he's a contributer on a Championship contender. Pleasde go "on and on" because you haven't named one yet

 

Elton Brand

Baron Davis

 

I will reserve judgment on Brand until he comes back next season. Baron Davis is equal to Maggette. Brutal deal. Although some posters want him here. I don't know why, but it's amusing.

 

Man Maggette does not fit in there just like Artest doesn't fit in here.

However, 20ppg at 8 million a year is NOT a bad contract it is a value.

You want worse, just look at Tmac on our own Houston Rockets....or Shaq, Raef LaFrentz, Arenas.

It is all about production...20ppg while shooting .460 is very good production.

DD