Amare Stoudemire a Rocket? The Rockets will try but come up short

If it's a deal like Artest + Landry plus a throw in...then ya gotta be all over that. I agree if it's extra stuff like more players or picks then you say no. Again, I don't think we could get him for that cheap so I don't see anything happening. I just can't see how some can say getting an all-nba PF for a average PF and an expiring deal isn't a risk you take. You can argue that it cost us more than that to get Artest.....

 

Artest/Landry for Amare isn't enough to get it done. You can add in Luther and technically that's enough to match salaries but Phoenix would need their heads examined if they gave up their best young player and all they had to show for it after this season was Carl Landry. Nothing against Landry either -- it's just not enough if Phoenix truly values Amare.

If Amare gets dealt it's going to be for a KG type of deal: picks/young talent/expirings. I would almost guarantee that. All we can really offer are expiring contracts, compounded with the fact that Kerr would be dealing Amare to a WC rival. I just see no way this gets done unless Kerr fumbles this situation horribly.

Would I do Artest/Landry/Head for Amare? Yeah, probably despite my gut telling me to steer clear. That rogue, cavalier "Who cares if they don't fit? We'll make it work!" approach is what got us into this Artest mess in the first place. Amare would be even a bigger example of that and require even more adjusting/sacrificing on part of everybody.

P.S. There's no way Amare comes off the bench. *IF* this deal were to go down it would be the Amare/Yao show at the 4/5 no matter how badly that combo may be prone to failure. In this instance you have to trust your coach and bank on him finding a way to make this work.

 

i wouldnt trade for amare because hes not a defensive player but i do think he would complement mcgradys game extremely well as far as in the pick and roll

 

Well then I wouldnt mind trading Ron for a PG that can spread the floor but there isnt too many I can think of besides Hinrich.

 

I take Derek Fisher over Rafer any day, any time, any place. That's why i was pissed off then Fisher was a free agent and Rockets didn't pick him up and allow him to go to the Jazz and then later pick up by Lakers again. You know everyone talking about how great Morey is ...but never talk about how he failed to pick up potential free agents....such as Fisher and possible Tmac Kobe trade during the Lakers fiasco. He failed in those years.

 

He moved to LA for help for his daughter. His daughter had a serious health problem so Utah let him out of his contract to move to a place where she could be helped, it just so happened to be LA, and the Lakers just happened to offer him a contract.

 

Yup, it's a pretty big dilemma. What's weird is this is probably the first year where I haven't known *HOW* to fix this team. In the JVG years it was usually pretty obvious what we were missing and what needed to be done to correct it. Now, we have boatloads of talent and it's very difficult to pinpoint the exact problem and decide which direction we need to move in.

It's like we could go crazy and try to get a guy like Amare that doesn't fit. We could take an enormous risk by trading for a guy like Hinrich. We could stand pat and rely on fine tweaking, hoping this team and Adelman just figure it out on their own. I'm not really sure what to think or which strategy makes the most sense, all things considered.

What I suspect is Morey wants to keep his options open for 2010 so i'd be shocked if T-Mac or Artest got dealt for anything surpassing that 2010 barrier.

 

See? Salary cap won't get you Franchis player in 2010. Or even much.

Joe Johnson --already mentioned. Likely to keep in Atlanta for the same reason he left Suns.
Ray Allen --way too old in 2010
Manu Ginobili, Spurs will resign him without a doubt.
Marcus Camby another overrated stats only big man. Denver is fine without him, clippers still bad with him.
Tracey McGrady huh... He's even more likely to retire than Ray Allen
Shaquille O'Neal Again, way too old.
Brad Miller Not allstar level. you see that kind of player every summer.
Stephen Jackson Same as Brad Miller.
Jermaine O'Neal Big quesiton If he can hold up in 2010.
Mike Miller Good fit for Rockets, not all star level.
Rip Hamilton Good fit for Rockets, not all star level.


the elite players in 2nd list won't opt out their contract as I said.
Memo Okur and Hedo Turkoglu etc are nowhere near super stars.

Conclusion: Salry cap only gets you role players in 2010, nothing to be too excited about.

 

To look into 2010,In two seasons, the Rockets line-up of the old members will be slowly

 

Trades will be made in these two years. Salary room will get you good role players, just not super stars. Too much salary room equals rebuilding, in other words, no championship.

 

Who said you had to land franchise players to have a successful offseason? There are tons of very good players available that summer. We already have a franchise player in Yao. And how will the salary cap not let us get a franchise dude in 2010???

And as I said, there are tons of very good players available that don't have to opt out...their contracts are just up. Why are you ingoring all of them....unless you are saying it's not worth holding onto cap space unless you can sign a tier 1 free agent...as if players like Billups, Turk, Fish, etc don't make a difference (all non tier 1 guys).

These guys are role players??

Stephen Jackson
Mike Miller
Rip Hamilton
Steve Nash
Memo Okur
Hedo Turkoglu
Al Harrington
TJ Ford

Yet, you don't think Landry and Scola are? Lol....

 

Morey wasn't even with the rockets when Fisher was a FA. Kobe wasn't going anywhere, especially not to Houston. Learn your history.

 

Which Franchise dude you see us getting?

you already showed the ones whose contract are up, I commented. There are some good players just like every other summer, we even got Artest this summer. But that really isn't anything to be so excited about. We are not getting Lebron .

Except Nash, which one is not role player? And Nash is not opting out his contract at that age.


Of course I think Landry and Scola are role players. They are even better than some of the names you put up there. So I'd like to keep them. Anything worng?

I still can't see why you get so excited about salary room there. Just a bunch of role players available in the end.

 

Given Steve Jax recent play since he got promoted to captain i wouldnt call him a role player his been the only one keeping the warriors alive

 

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I say the PF and C spots are pretty much good with Yao and Scola. What we need work on are the wing positions. Scola and Yao are more than sufficient and efficient at their positions. As tempting as it is, we don't need Amare.

IF we are going to trade someone, I'd prefer it be T-mac or Ron for some athletic young blood at the wing positions.

 

well,I look it this way: warriors are dead because they have no star player, one of the role players has to act like a star.

 

if we could somehow get Amare in a trade with Artest and a filler than that would we great but it probably wont happen.

People here say Kirk H. would be good for the team but Rick wouldn't start him over Rafer and I don't see him gelling with the team that much. If we could get Mike Miller and a 2nd rounder/ filler (Carney...) that would be much better for the team cause he'll be taking Ron's role on the team. He's a better shooter and doesn't dominate the ball. He would fit best in Ricks system and the team.


1. Amare
2. M. Miller
3 C. Maggette

 

Completely agree. I would still trade him for McLady any day of the week. Tmac fits better in Phoenix and Amare fits better with us. Amare has better trade value in the long term.

 

I would never trade for amare. The guy is the most selfish and egotistical player in the nba. He complains about touches all the time and wants to be the man. If he were here, he would complain about all the touches yao got. The guy is a team cancer and only cares about himself and winning comes second.