This is my brain in text format.^^^^ Charles Jones, I am interested to know who you think we should throw an offer towards next summer? My thinking is maybe a Joe Johnson or Carmelo Anthony.
im all in for Joe Johnson to come here and team up with Ariza, Battier, Brooks, and Scola and hopefully Yao can come back in 2010-11 and play the key is getting a Center this year someone like a Spencer Hawes or a Roy Hibbert our line up in 2010-2011 would be: Brooks/Lowery Johnson/Taylor Battier/Ariza/Budinger or Ariza/Battier/Budinger Scola/Landry/Hayes (gotta re-sign Scola in 10-11) Yao/Hawes or Hibbert/Dorsey trade tracy for a young center and play out this year
I'm patient enough to wait this year out and get Bosh next year....heck I wouldn't even be mad at the team if they sort of got together and maybe planned on being in the lottery next year for a real good player. Here's what we do, try to win the first half of every game and then sort of take it easy the rest of the game. On the plus side we'd be super fresh for next year, and we'd have Bosh and a top rookie.
I don't know about Johnson or Wade, I think I'd rather have Vujacic. I mean, have you seen his stats? 65 wins and 17 losses is pretty damn impressive...
Look I don't understand why we are all so worried here. We keep Scola and get Bosh. From the look of things, he and Bosh can both man the paint very well. I would dare say getting Bosh and Scola might even be better than having a duo of Yao and Scola. Scola is not 6'7 and neither is Bosh. I don't know why people are so worried about the center position so much. In all of Adleman's teams how many really amazing big men has the man had? Brad Miller? An aging Vlade Divac? Chris Webber...? Chris Bosh is 6'10 and 230lbs. Scola is 6'9 and 245lbs. These guys are not small people. The fact is Yao at 7'6 was producing the same if not less numbers.... I have a gut feeling Yao Ming will eventually come back. With this injury I do not see his market that high after this season. If he agrees to come back for a reasonable price we can use him as Vlade Divac was used towards the end of his career or like Mutumbo. Limiting his minutes like we have all wanted and that would give us a very very strong front court lineup which makes it very appealing to any if not all wing men or guards, especially those looking to win that ring. The Joe Johnson's that you want, or free agent wade's or kevin martin's will all come flocking here because of our strong front court. Waiting for another true great center to come into our lap is like waiting for the second coming. If we have a chance to attain a quality front court player such as Bosh... you just take it... especially one that hasn't spent most of his time under an operating table.
Being from Toronto, I can honestly attest to Bosh's work ethic. Even on a slumping team, he shut his mouth and played hard, and put up good numbers. The losing was starting to get to him when the Raptors was slumping, but I take this a postive sign. Amare is a shell of his former self. I loved the Amare who crushed Duncan in the playoffs, but I'd definitely NOT pay anything near a max deal for him.
So youre examples are Wade and Johnson? What was Miami and Atlanta records last year? That is what you look at right? Dont get me wrong I like both of them. Of course none of this has anything to do with the fact that Bosh is one of the best young frontline players in the NBA which you for whatever reason keep denying. Now please tell me who this true center is you keep talking about and how are we going to get him? There just arent any true centers anymore. The days of the dominating centers is gone. Who was LA's center last year? I agree taht all we need is a dominating player (regardless of position IMO) and the right players around him. I guess Im just old school and think you start with the frontline and find youre star there first and build around him. As far as TMac is concerned injuries are the reason more than anything else he didnt live up to his billing. That is a risk you take with any player. Bosh for the most part has been healthy.
Charles Jones You say be patient, but just waiting till 2010 and hoping that either Joe Johnson or Wade will come here is just poor decision making. The Rockets do not appear to be in the running as a top free agent destination, so in all likelyhood, we wouldnt be able to sign anyone. The reason the OP picked Bosh and Amare is because these are the two we can potentially snag up and lock down for the long term via trade as opposed to free agency. If you lock up one of those guys and a healthy Yao ming re-emerges you have one of the best front courts in basketball, with amazing depth. The Rockets were so close to being an amazing basketball team. First we had a ton of star power and no help, then vice versa, we really just need to get all the pieces together and on the court at the same time. If a Bosh or Amare trade scenario becomes available the Rockets HAVE to jump on it. The alternatives are just plain grim IMO.
I really feel that we have a big name coming to houston already in the works. Morey has always been one to keep his moves out of the radar. I thought about this earlier. Why would Ariza choose the Rockets over all these other teams if the money is the same when he really has no affiliation with the city. I think Morey told him something that people outside of the organization do not know. If you noticed when asked about t-mac being trade Ariza had a very peculiar reaction almost biting his tongue. I don't know if this splash will involve Bosh or Amare but I do think what ever we do to get that big name here will come before this season rather than next.
Guys i know it sounds crazy but to me bosh and scola arent too different. i agree with some people saying they dont like amar'es game, and i get that. but we need someone aggresive, and stoudemire seems like a good fit to me.
soft, mediocre defense, no attitude, no physicality. Leader of arguably the worst team in the nba, not very impressive to me.
The Raptors' poor record isn't a reflection of Chris Bosh's ability to carry a team. Heck, even an Olajuwon led team went to the lottery which netted Robert Horry. And another similarity with that Rockets team is that the Raptor's front office was a bit of a mess, the Headcoach not meshing with the GM, the players not fitting the team (O'neal), players not knowing their rolls (Bargnani), or players injured (Calderon). Your lineup lacks balance, no presence on the post on offense and defense, especially with ??? (Yao) indefinitely out and unreliable. Bosh is a better value and fit to make the Rockets iteration of the Princeton offense work IMHO.
So, Bosh: 4 time all star; All NBA 2nd Team (once); 1 division title; 2 playoff appearances; 25 years old Stoudamire: 4 time all star; All NBA 1st team (once), 2nd team (twice); 3 division titles; 4 playoff appearances (1 conference finals appearance); 26 years old I'm not advocating one over the other. I'm just saying, "that all you got?"
Despite his frame, Bosh doesn't play soft, and his defense is not mediocore. He's a really good weakside shot blocker, and nimble enough to defend pick and rolls. The Raptors were just one season removed from being a playoff team. They just made a bad trade in the preseason, fired their coach after a 8-9 start, and 2 of their major players (O'neal and Calderon) were injured, which snowballed into losses. But they made a run from Feb on, but just couldn't make enough ground to make the playoffs.
