Amare may win ROY but NO ONE would take him over Yao.

They are biased and prejudice!

 

man, so many dumb comments lately..Yao is not trained to play basketball! he choose to play basketball! he loves the game! if you think China can simply train a person into a great basketball player, then China would win gold long time ago

 

Amare is awesome. Yao Ming is awesome. I think the reason he didn't win the award is because of the fact that Amare had the opportunity to boost his stats in garbage time when Rudy/Larry stuck Yao to the bench.

Now...listen up Amare (aka Buck Naked). I love Yao Ming but Stoud's gonna be a helluva playa if he finds a J. I'm talking, Garnett-esque. I'm not hatin. But I do think the voting was a little biased.

 

"many would probably choose Amare over Yao"

"it all comes down to preference and team needs."

Two sentences that contradict each other. I think you just need to drop that first sentence. Because *many* would choose Yao over Amare!

 

Look at the positive side! May be the media will be all over Amare next season and leave Yao to have some quiet moment witn only basketball.

That would be good for Yao.

 

Garnett-esque?

Uh, no.

Unless Amare grows 4 more inches in height and about 4 more inches in arm length.

Amare will be a POWER FOWARD that we will have to deal with; like Kemp or Webber.

 

The real reason Yao didn't get it dates back to the beggining of the season. When all the reporters where saying that Yao would suck. The reporter's just didn't wanna look bad, so they decided to keep the ROY from him. Yao's hype was what doomed him in the end(the ROY race that is ;-)). The reporters made his grave. I heard that Yao got like 11 3rd place votes...what kinda utter BS is that!?!?!?!? I know for a fact that Yao was no where near third best rookie.

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP! I'M ASHAMED TO BE A SPORTS FAN.

 

I think y'all take ROY way too seriously. Sure I'm upset that the person that rightfully deserves it didn't get it for whatever reason, fill in your own blank, but c'mon, who here thinks the Suns would win a championship? Isn't that consolation enough for you? Take away the ROY and gimme the ring. That makes me very happy.

Btw, Buck Naked is a troll and a moron, no justification needed, I'm sure y'all know already. But then again, I didn't expect better from someone with a name like that.

 

Come on guys. Forget about the ROY. Suns makes the playoff but we does not. You gotta give them credits on that, and Amare too. Amare deserved the ROY. Concerning who has a better future, it's just too early to predict. Amare is powerful, and is analogous with young Shawn Kemp. Yao is a good centre, but it's hard to tell if Yao can improve his stamina and power, which is essential to be a dominant big man in the league. Furthermore, he is a Chinese, who may have many obligations in China which may hinder his development. To become a dominant player in the league, both Yao and Amare just need some luck. Hard to tell which one WILL BE better.

 

Come on now rocketman lets not get ridiculous here. Nene is Great Amare is Better. They will be a classic match up for years to come. Hell they look like twins on the court. Yao had a great season, but Amare won...move on.

 

Actually Shaq, Kobe & Tim Duncan all picked Amare as the ROY also.

For a while it looked like the media was locked in on Yao for ROY, and the NBA stars were all in the Amare camp.

I wonder what changed it? Maybe the playoff thing. One thing is certain,the Suns never would have made it if Tom Gugliotta was the starting power forward.

 

All I know is, at some point in their careers, they will each be the best player at their position. It may come sooner for Yao, but it will probably last longer for Amare.

So Amare hasn't had proper training. If you remember preseason, you'll remember hearing Rudy say that the training methods they're using in China are terrible, and it has affected Yao Ming. Also, despite 3+ hours training per day for around 3 months, Yao Ming's stamina was absolutely awful, and his strength left much to be desired.

Despite this, no brand new etam would take Amare over Yao. If not for his skills, then for his marketing value. Believe me, NO OWNER would take Amare Stoudamire over Yao Ming.

The NBA will play a preseason game in China, and Yao will produce much bigger numbers next season.

On a side note, Houston is not as talented as Phoenix. Phoenix is WAY more talented:

Marbury > Francis
Penny = Mobley (optimistic)
Marion > combination of all our SF's
Amare > MoT/Griffin
Yao > their C rotation and all their coaches

Really, Marbury/Marion/Stoudamire/Penny is a very talented team,a nd we can't match that. Overall, we may be able to match it, but they've got their talented concentrated on these players, while ours is spread out over a 12-man roster.

 

The Suns making the playoffs clearly swung the vote for Amare, and hey, why not.

But don't confuse the award or even player sentiment with the truth.

Windandsea, you don't need to be gracious or back off your opinion because a Suns fan says to. The fact is EVERY front office and coaching staff would choose Yao Ming over Amare Stoudemire today, tomorrow, whenever. That's 100%. Even the Lakers would take him for value.

A franchise center with an intact skillset and superlative court sense vs THE BEST PF THERE EVER WAS... and there's still some debate. When their upsides are primarily strength related vs learning how to shoot (ala Malone), there is no debate.

Sure, the Suns front office could/would/should never admit it, but they'd trade Amare for Yao and throw in Colangelo's left nut to seal the deal.

 

I think windandsea was being sarcastic when she changed from 60% to 10%. A fool was trying to argue about the percentage with her.

 

sounds like Yao is not ready to acknowledge the defeat yet. i hope the loss of ROY award will spur him on and make him work even harder this summer. we'll see who has the final laugh!

 

amare will be a great player for a long time however i find it impossible to believe that any less than 90% of owners AND gm's would select yao as their franchise before amare. a couple facts:

1) amare didn't have nearly a quarter of the media scrutiny and pressure that yao had. as a number 9 pick amare floated under the radar while his game developed at his own pace. like yao he sure did come around fast but there was nowhere near the expectations that yao was expected to live up to.

2) amare didn't even sniff as many double teams in one week(maybe two) as yao did in some games alone. coaches came in with defensive strategies dedicated to keeping yao from even receiving the ball. as a rookie yao got often got some hakeem like defensive pressure that amare only had nightmares about. imagine amare throwing cross-court passes over double teams or no look passes for layups. i don't think so.

both will be elite players but only one of them is a 7'6" center and that pretty much ends any argument.

 

Amare's a lot more fierce than Webber. Webber looks completely apathetic the entire time.

 

Do be so sure about the great system you hear about. Let's not go there.
What else can a NBA player do besides playing basketball. Dont tell me those guys dont just get trainned and sleep when they are young. This is why there is sports scholarship.

 

Imagine how deadly Amare will be once he develops a better offensive reportoire of moves. He's already there defensively. He's been pushing Duncan around, and making him work for every basket. Stoudemire deserves the award this year - he had a damn good year, no complaints.

But, when it's all said and done, the Center position is the hardest one to fill in the pros. And, if they had to do it all over again, I don't see the Rockets taking Amare over Yao. Both will have dozens of All-Star appearances, and will continue to strengthen the Western Conference.