Amare may win ROY but NO ONE would take him over Yao.

a few fleeting coaches from time to time....why do you think he had eligibility issues? he went state to state, nc-florida, while these coaches went way out of their way to get him, to house him, feed him, get him in school, and im sure somewhere in there, these coaches, trained him, and im not sure the ages of 14-19 (durring which all this occurred) a span of 5 years can be constituted.."time to time"

 

He played 2 years of college ball, a total of 61 games in all. If you think any of those coaches did him any favors, read what Amare said after his first workout with the Suns...

I said this earlier, but I think it is comical that some of these fans hate the (opposing) players more than the actual players themselves do.

Yao respects Amare's game, Amare respects Yao's game. What's the big deal?

 

"a few fleeting coaches from time to time....why do you think he had eligibility issues? he went state to state, nc-florida, while these coaches went way out of their way to get him, to house him, feed him, get him in school, and im sure somewhere in there, these coaches, trained him, and im not sure the ages of 14-19 (durring which all this occurred) a span of 5 years can be constituted.."time to time"

Right, lost. Let's assume that what you say is true -- though it is not.

Do you still think that this equals a national program pouring money into your development and providing all the opportunity in the world to succeed? C'mon, lost -- that's a joke.

 

I think maybe 60% coaches of NBA teams would take Ming over Amare. The other 40% like Amare more and take him over Ming.

But 99% GM and owners of NBA teams would choose Ming because of the money he brings to his club. Rockets has increased its club profit from the second last (last season) to the second this year.

 

You obviously know nothing about basketball in China.

Sure the Mcdonald's all-American team might be better than Chinese national team, but Amare didn't compete against those players day in and day out during his high school career.

On the other hand Yao Ming has been competing against the likes of Wang Zhizhi, Bateer and even some great centers from other countries (during worling champhions and Olympics) since he was 15. And the average height of a team in CBA is pretty close to the avg height of a NBA team. It's Amare who has been playing against players 4-5 inches shorter than him all the time before he was drafted.

 

Haha! That is so right!

man..i would never pay to go see Amare in a game.

BUT I WOULD TO SEE YAO.

i mean...GOD!!! I ALREADY SEE AMARE'S DUNKS ALL DAY ON TV ANYWAYS.

They never show anything good about the Rockets!

I'm sticking with my choice.

 

"I think maybe 60% coaches of NBA teams would take Ming over Amare. The other 40% like Amare more and take him over Ming. But 99% GM and owners of NBA teams would choose Ming because of the money he brings to his club. Rockets has increased its club profit from the second last (last season) to the second this year. "

Show me something other than made-up numbers or fan polls, and I might believe you. But I think we both know that data does not exist because actual opinion leaguewide of the two players does not support your take.

 

OK. I agree with you.

I change my point in this way:

I think maybe only 10% coaches of NBA teams would take Ming over Amare. The other 90% like Amare more and would take him over Ming. But 99% GM and owners of NBA teams would choose Ming because of the money he brings to his club. Rockets has increased its club profit from the second last (last season) to the second this year.

 

Hmm...

I know Don Nelson, Greg Poppovich, Rudy Tomjanovich, and Doc Rivers would take Yao over Amare...that's more than 10%.


INACCURATE AGAIN!

 

I don't know. I only know RUdy was very high on Amare after the game with Suns. Maybe 10% is too much.

 

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/sports/1880453

Here's the Chronicle story, I'm sure you've seen it. No need to cry over spilled milk. Let it be more motivation. Yao continues to display character beyond Amare or anyone else in the NBA. He should be rookie of the year, just for the fact he will serve as an example for future rookies, and for that matter, most of the veteran NBA.

"Congratulations to Amare," Yao said. "This is just the start of many years (of competition between them) to come."

 

It's just amazing people here still believe Yao has upside.

 

Raytiger? You see a down side, or that he will remain the same? Nothing is guarranteed, but objectively speaking, he's got mad upside.

Come on, don't hate and then not back it up

 

Rox should realize Yao is not the player to build a franchise around. The sooner the better. He can contribute to the team because he still has a "larger than life" trade value. Use it before it's too late.

 

ray ray,


do you plan on backing this up intelligently or not? there's a whole bbs just waiting to rip you a new one.....

 

Will pigs fly?

He has been bashing Yao from day one. What can you expect from him?

He is no where to be found when you had a good game, however, he is the first one to jump out to diss him when there is a bad game.

Sometimes I really wonder if he is the alter ego of "Fool Exposer"

 

back to your bridge troll.

 

Well, it looks like AS has won the ROY but the thing that pisses me off perhaps more than Yao losing is the great hypocrisy shown by the media pundits who first heaped tons of scorn on Yao because of his lack of credentials (He played against vastly inferior competition in China and against soft international teams in games with strange internatonal rules! He will get eaten up alive against real competition in the NBA. He is weak/underweight/anemic and makes Bradley look like Chamberlain. He never had to play against "brothers" before as so famously stated by Sir Charles, etc, etc) Of course, once Yao started playing well as the season progressed, these media types suddenly changed their story and admitted he had game and started to kiss ass figuratively and literally. It was as if the experts had to go overboard in their new assessment of Yao to cover up the vicious and petty quality of their initial comments. However, once the ROY race heated towards the end of the season, a lot of the same pundits who initially denigrated Yao's background started to talk about the advantages that Yao had with the insinuation that he somehow had an unfair advantage over AS because "he had all that PRO experience in China (equivalent to NCAA Division 2 ball at best) and invaluable experience against all those great international players" while poor little AS had to struggle on his own as an innocent little 6-10 245 pound 20 year high school student with all the odds in the world against him despite being one of the most impressive physical specimens to ever come out of high school to dominate in the summer pro league. So which end of the stick is the real one for crying out loud? I am so looking forward to next season when all the hype and attention will turn to LeBron James. The nauseous quality of the Karl Rovian press is hard to stomach.

 

Yep. I can't believe it. Really pisses me off...well not that bad...but he still should have won it.

I mean...I have never seen any team have their entire defense focused on stopping Amare. That has happened to Yao a bunch of times. Yao had to go through much more pressure...I know Amare has had a tough life too. But looking at the stats, Yao should have won. And on the impact he has had. And the attention he has gotten. Man.

 

Just wondering, who are the people that actually vote for the ROY?

Are they just sports writers, coaches, or someone else? I think if it was a matter of people that actually played in the league, we would see more support for Yao. I mean, how many players have played Shaq and lived to tell about it?