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Amare makes first team over Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Adil83, May 11, 2007.

  1. olliez

    olliez Member

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    Amare is a power forward
     
  2. plutoblue11

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    another good point.
     
  3. durvasa

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    Amare played every minute of the regular season at center. He started sharing the court with Kurt Thomas for the first time in the playoffs.
     
  4. Sextuple Double

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    He played 50 games.....what more could you ask for!?

    By this logic, Wade would've made 2nd team over T-Mac and everybody in Houston would have a riot.
     
  5. slcrocket

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    Frankly, I'd rather have Amare than Yao, and I think that there are a lot of people that agree with me.
     
  6. lastopsuburb

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    2nd team. Im glad he even made a team with all those times he missed
     
  7. Pocket Rockets

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    apparently hollinger questioned the voting as well...in a different way.


    Award voting drives me nutsby: John Hollinger
    posted: Friday, May 11, 2007 | Feedback | Print Entry
    filed under: LeBron James, Amare Stoudemire, Monta Ellis, Manu Ginobili, Adam Morrison, Walter Herrmann

    For some reason, award voting gets me all fired up. The rational side of me knows that it's just an award and that, at the end of the day, it has no impact whatsoever on wins and losss. But it still just drives me bonkers when I see weird award selections or indefensible votes.

    Like most years, this season has produced more than a few. It started with the Sixth Man voting, when 30 of the voters decided to make up their own rules on who qualified by leaving Manu Ginobili off their ballots. (The league guideline for voters is that a player must have played at least half his games as a reserve in order to qualify; there's nothing at the end saying "unless you think a different rule would be better.")

    Then, of course, there was the Rookie of the Year vote, where for a second year in a row the only logical choice was prevented from being a unanimous pick by an obvious homer vote -- which makes me wonder if they shouldn't have the same rules coaches have for the All-Star Game, where you can't vote one of your own.

    Or how about Adam Morrison getting 22 votes -- 11 second and 11 third -- when he was quite possibly the single worst player in the league this year? Stand up and raise your hand if you didn't watch a Bobcats game, voters -- I'm guessing there's exactly 22 of you out there.

    Of course, the league's coaches (or the assistants they had fill out their ballots) didn't fare much better here. Morrison also was just two points away from making first-team All-Rookie, getting 11 more first-place votes than the guy who took his job, Walter Herrmann.

    Yet all that was minor stuff compared to the weirdness of the All-NBA selections, where as the Akron Beacon-Journal's outstanding Cavaliers beat writer Brian Windhorst pointed out, Amare Stoudemire was selected to the first team with a funny vote total. The league reported him with 494 points in the voting, even though based on his reported first-place votes he couldn't possibly have received more than 459 and probably had substantially less (for instance, Yao Ming had two more first-place votes than Stoudemire but only 333 total points). With 459 points or less, Stoudemire would have been on the second team, with LeBron James moving up to the first team.

    An additional weirdness comes up when we look at positions. Apparently about half the voters listed Tim Duncan as a forward on their ballot -- working backwards based on the other votes, he had 45 of his 94 first-place votes at forward.

    As I've mentioned previously, this charade has gone on for far too long, and every year it affects the All-Star and All-NBA voting. Again, let me get out my megaphone: Do we really have to keep pretending that Tim Duncan and Jermaine O'Neal are power forwards just because their teams insist on calling them that? At what point does the fact that they guard the other team's center, are guarded by the other team's center, and spend the whole game doing things that centers do factor into this?

    At any rate, Duncan's being a "forward" forced voters to put Stoudemire as their first-team center and cost James a first-team All-NBA spot, even though if you surveyed 100 people and asked who had a better year, I'd say, oh, about 100 of them would answer LeBron.

    Like I said, it's just an award -- I don't even know what you get for first-team All-NBA. But it drives me batty anyway. And based on how fans react to this stuff, I don't think I'm the only one.


    http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blo...&name=hollinger_john&univLogin02=stateChanged
     
  8. durvasa

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    ^ Hollinger didn't like Duncan being voted in as a forward, because that demoted LeBron to second team and lifted Amare to first team. He'd have Duncan as the center on the 1st team, and LeBron and Dirk as forwards. If he still agrees with Amare over Yao, then that would drop Yao down to the third team.
     
  9. Williamson

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    If Yao was healthy all year then I'd be outraged he's second team. He wasn't healthy though so second team is no big deal.
     
  10. xomox

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    the puppet (amare) is nothing without the puppet-master (nash).
     
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    You cannot give FIRST TEAM to a guy who missed half the year. It is Amare's this year even though Yao was better when he played.
     
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    looks like the people clicking on the poll agree with me :)
     
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    Amare is in the second round. Yao is not.
     
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    Yao will be continuously ignored by some media until he gets his first title. the reason is simple: he is the only one in his race playing in NBA. Believe it or not, if Yao is black or white, he should have already been in the first team. It is sad but it is truth.
     
  15. ritou

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    He is #9 in 1st round.
     
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    #36 RocketForever, May 11, 2007
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    That's the only reason Yao didn't make the 1st team. I agree with that.
     
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    The way how Yao played in first round, I would say he is lucky to be on 2nd team.
     
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    Yep. BTW PEOPLE, I KNOW YAO IS BETTER THAN AMARE. But he played like 25 less games. That really is the difference
     
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    Not saying how good the Chinese Kid Yi Jianlian is. But if Sun gets the 4th pick and does pick Yi, then I will take that as a signal Suns will trade Amare...
     

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