Alpi, Amen, and Green are the core of the core of the core

We aren’t talking about only the money figure. Contract length as well.

If the original offer was 28m/5y, how did it get to 33m and 3 years, both terms beneficial to Jalen? Not to mention the player option on top of that.

I’m tired of this back and forth. I’m done here.

 

Because thats how negotiations work? You take some you give some, thats what you said right?

Jalen wanted 42 he settled for 33M. The player option is to make it up to him going down from 42 to 33, so instead of 5 yrs at 33 he gets a 2+1 player option to stop it if he plays great. Its not that hard to understand.

You act like Jalen getting a 3 yr deal is good for him, its better for the Rockets. if JG sucks they only pay him for 3 yrs. Its risk on Jalen if he sucks he lost money. So he can make more money but he can also lose a lot of money. So it is neutral for him high risk high reward scenario.

For the Rockets, if Jalen plays great they are happy to max him cuz a max player outplays his salary. If he sucks they only pay him 3 yrs and at less than max. So really it is more beneficial to the Rockets they lessen their risk. What is the downside to the Rockets? They pay him more money earlier? But Jalen originally wanted max contract from his extension, so Rockets saved 2 yrs of not paying him the max. They still win regardless.

 

The downside if Green plays well, he's only undercontract for 3 years. He can opt out after 2 and doesn't have to re-sign with the Rockets. If he's great, the Rockets would just rather pay him the max, the maximum years.

If Green doesn't improve, he isn't worth his contract and the Rockets lose that salary that could be spent elsewhere.

The contract is a lose lose designed to minimize the loss if he falters while preserving their rights to Green for a few more years if he improves. The Rockets would probably have a better idea at the end of the year if the contract should be if he's great or if he's not.

 

Its a win for the Rockets if they minimize their risk. If Jalen isnt worth his contract they still win cuz they have him for 3 yrs instead of 5 yrs. Instead of being saddled with JG bad contract for 5 yrs now its just 3 yrs.

Sure Green can opt out but why will he do that? Rox can still pay him as much as anybody else. Rox would pay him the max starting Y3 well the alternative is they pay him the max on Y1. So in that scenario Rox saved on money for 2 yrs and I believe JG's new max will be cheaper than Sengun or Amen's new max after 5 yrs. So Rox win again.

Like I said Rox win in either scenario whether jG plays good or bad this deal is beneficial to the Rockets.

 

Players do it all the time. Usually, they let team know ahead of time so they can go where they want and not lose money. Having less years on a contract makes a team get less if a player forces their way out.

If Green is worth the max, I don't see the reason to pinch pennies with the team the Rockets have. Amen and Sengun are alreay Top 40 players. The Rockets only need to be budget concious if Green is not worth the max as they may need to trade for someone worth the max.

 

Not really, players dont opt out of a team giving them a max to sign a max with another team, I cant remember the last time that happened tbh. I guess Lebron when he left Cleveland to sign with LA? But I think Lebron is the only one lol.

 

He doesn’t have to leave. The point is, by opting out he can get the max EARLY, be it Rox (ie resign for a new contract) or another team.

 

I mean opt out of the team not opt out of his deal, sorry I misspoke. Hence my follow up statement about he wont leave if the Rox offer him a max deal.

Yes Green can opt of his deal after 2 yrs and possibly get a max deal.

 

Get well soon!

 

I agree this is the "core" . Jabari Smith has shown enough to also be seriously considered.

I think the question is who do you need to pair ?

Definitely a guy with great shooting. Brooks is in that role now, and has done great this year.

Fred is steady enough and we will continue with him this year obviously. ( we arent memphis )

However.... should we decide to go away from fred this offseason, I would LOVE to see if we could work a trade for Desmond Bane ( possible SnT for Fvv work? @BimaThug ) and any other cap people ?

Bane is on a deal that is not great ... but you can take advantage of our youth by having that space for a couple of years , we can trade Bane who may be a net positive contract at that point .

I do think we will choose to let green / sengun / amen take on more of the ball handling duties.

Brooks may take a step up if we dont trade him , that may not be a great thing. He's awesome in his role right now and looking like a great value, but that can change. I think Bane is better , but he gets paid a lot more.

We have a question coming up with Jabari..... and frankly , Tari.

Both extension eligible this offseason , otherwise RFA.

Very interesting offseason coming up .

 

Never break this core up.

 

Yeah. I don’t think there’s any argument

 

Jabari doing man's work tonight with 17 rebounds.

 

After seeing the team lately I am content with punting the ball for one more year at least until the deadline next year. Everyone has been balling lately even Reed and Cam it seems dumb to trade them prematurely. Like what if we throw in Reed in a trade and he blows up? If we are gonna trade anyone I would rather see them develop one more year and see them manifest some more of their potential for a higher return.

Rox are under no pressure to make a trade as due to Sengun and Jalen being team players nobody is making the max. We can keep everyone despite Jabari and Tari's extensions assuming we renegotiate FVV's salary.

The only exception to this is Cam who may have fallen in the doghouse and be buried and rotting onside the dungeon. If I were Stone I will have a serious discussion with Ime on Cams future cuz if he wont play he can be used to move up in the draft and get someone like Maluach.

 

I think with Alp showing he can play at the 4 some, a big center should be in play with this squad. It does depend on what happens with Brooks and Fred though.

 

Just resign Adams and get Maluach or Sorber in the draft. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best solution.

Adams is only 31 he should have 4 more good years left. If we dont draft a big man I would look at getting Clint Capela on the cheap to supplement Adams.