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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. cml750

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    How in the world did I miss you I when finally utilizing the ignore feature? Oh well that oversight is about to be solved.
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    He only played 22 minutes due to foul trouble. Not a good game, but if his guards had made some shots/passed him the ball, maybe Turkey would have had a chance.

    14 pts, 4 rebs, 3 asts, 1 blk in 22 minutes, 4-8 fg (1-3 3-pt fg), 5-6 ft.

    Some dude called Sipahi played 18 minutes, went 0-4 and contributed nothing else. Like Turkey's Daishen Nix or something lol.

    Turkey was 9-29 from three, Croatia 15-33. That lost them the game.
     
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    Surprised that the Dementors aren't flying around all over the place at this moment....o_O


    Go Rockets!!!
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  4. Risingred

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    Turkey has no chance against Croatia. Jelen Smith and Dario Saric made tough shots over and over while most players in the Turkey lineup couldn't even make open shots. Korkmaz found his shots late, but it was too little too late. Sengun is too young, and he didn't demand the ball. He committed some silly fouls, and overall he didn't play as well as in other games. Turkey the whole team didn't play as a group, rather played like Silas's Rockets. I don't think we should overreact to one game. On the bright side, It'd give a chance for Sengun to take a break from the national team and Ime to fix his game.
     
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    From the parts of the game I watched. Crotia would run hard double teams against Sengun everytime he got in the post. He barely even touched the ball. Their game plan was to make anyone else beat them and no one else on Turkey could except for a fluke hot streak by Kormaz when he hit like 5 threes in a row.
     
  6. AlperenSengun

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    Sengun surely doesn't get the respect from his teammates that he should, being waved off by nobodies, or some other players going for hero ball when they should have no right to do so.

    The thing Sengun can do better is not to let these thing put him off his game. Not easy, especially after playing in the toxic silas team and getting bad habits but he should learn to do that. He gets effected and doesn't play his game. Part of it is being very ambitious and getting frustrated when things go bad and he doesn't get his shot to fix it, or playing with lesser guards. But he cannot change that at the moment.
     
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    Hopefully Sengun can utilize Udoka's defensive mindset, if not you'll be blaming him for Sengun's failures
     
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    It should be pointed out that the fate of this pre-Olympic game wasn't determined because Sengun's teammates didn't get him involved or because his teammates played badly. Granted, they couldn't buy a jump shot, but the game fell apart because Croatia's best player (Saric) dominated Sengun from the opening tip. And that beating was deflating to everyone.

    Saric torched Sengun from the outset--off the bounce, off catch and shoot 3s (zero closeouts), the boards, assists, etc. As much feel for the game as Sengun has, he was simply terrible on the defensive end.

    Between Sengun losing the best scoring option on the court again and again, he was flailing at people on screens and rebounds (by being out of control and over the back), drawing stupid fouls, shooting airball threes, and complaining about his teammates not getting him the ball in such a way that even a casual fan could notice. Habits learned from Eric Gordon at their finest.

    Sengun looked about as bad as he could. This was a high-stakes game, and he could not provide stability or leadership. When Kormaz was hot and trying to lead an improbable comeback in the second half, Sengun continued to play in a funk.

    The rest of this off-season--and how Sengun processes this negative experience--will tell a lot about Sengun's future with the Rockets. If we keep seeing bad behavior and terrible habits, it will be a waste. The person that has to look in the mirror and figure out the kind of player he wants to be is Sengun.

    Is he the kind of person that wilts under pressure or adversity, or will he find a way? I'm hopeful (and hopelessly optimistic) that he'll grow from this experience.
     
  9. rocketchamp

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    All this was true except you blaming Eric Gordon. Sengun fans need 2 really stop blaming others for him falling short
     
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    We must have watched different games. Saric was hot from 3 but didn’t see him score off the bounce much.
    Alp has to control his emotions, stupid fouls and guards not getting him involved got him flustered. He has to mature if he is going to take the next step.
    He tries to do too much at times, patience and letting the game come to him is a step he has to take
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Cool (very long) story bro, but Sengun was -4 in 22 minutes, in a game that was lost by 14.

    Literally none of your little novel there actually happened.
     
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    Sengun's biggest value-add is coordinating the offense. For this to work, the team has to prioritize getting him the ball early in the shot clock. I missed the first 10 minutes of the game, so I don't know what happened leading to Sengun's early fouls. But for the rest of the game, Turkey did not make an effort to integrate him into a coherent offense and looked completely out of sync and awful as a result.
     
  13. AlperenSengun

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    I have similar observations. Croatia was simply better as a team, domination mainly coming from guard playmaking and scoring. Sengun had a bad game regardless.
     
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    Also, there is less spacing in fiba basketball, essentially making it easier to effectively double sengun. by no means an excuse for his poor performance, just an observation.
     
  15. daywalker02

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    I liked Korkmaz and Sehmus Hazer.
     
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    Sengun does get rattled and plays needlessly reckless when he gets frustrated. He needs to learn to be in control when things don't go his way
     
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    yeah I liked Seamus as well but he is not a first option scorer or playmaker. Korkmaz not so much. Very unreliable and inconsistent, not much on defense and doesn’t lift the teammates up. More like a microwave scorer. His confidence is also broken after falling out of rotation in Philly. I don’t see an upward trajectory for him.
     
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    Agreed. He let his frustration get to him.
     
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    The main problem was the coach, Ergin Ataman. He is the #2 in decadence list, just following Popovich.Have a look:

    1. He aimed o become NBA HC after winning back to back Euroleague titles but became delusional when he was not offered one. Efes could not reach to play-offs in Euroleague.

    2. He lost Yurt7 last year and gave him too much opportunity this year to gain him back. Yurt7 should not start the final game.

    3.Alp nearly played as non-assisting guy in whole qualification games. A normal human being would realise that someting was wrong.

    4. Although Shane Larkin and Scottie Wilbekin were naturalized Turkey still played without a true playmaker. Very similar to Houston Rockets/2021-23.

    5.Nearly all important player were from (currently defunct) a nursing team: Bandirma. Alp,Sehmus Hazer, Furkan Korkmaz, Sadik Emir Kabaca, Ercan Osmani,... Ergin Ataman and the head of Turkish Basketball Hedo "the maddi manevi" Turkoglu were not able to bring up other Turkish players. Ataman employed foreign players where Hedo is only interested in to gain personal financial benefits. What a duo. A certain recipe for a catastrophe.

    Turkish giant Anadolu Efes let Ataman to go (he will coach a Greek team this year) and he should be fired from the national team. He can take Yurt7 and Hedo to somewhere else also.What a clown!
     

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