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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. cmoak1982

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    No you don’t. That’s just lies and bias from a Green heavy fan

    And literally in this thread there are dudes that say Alp fans are only fans because he’s white.

    Take your head out of the sand
     
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    Hol up. You just can't put Kobe/Beal/Lavine in the same line bro.

    Ya if you include Kobe in that trio of players, people are going to buy your point of "man those are unrealistic comparisons" because....

    Kobe


    But Lavine and Beal? Those are very realistic mid level projections for him.
     
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    Then why constant Sengun hate buddy? Vucevic is 2 times all-star.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Nope. There is significantly more trash talking of Jalen Green, KPJ and Jabari on social media than there is of Alpi.

    It's like very obvious and someone suggesting otherwise makes me think you are just trolling. Like it's that much of a discrepancy.
     
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    I’m not talking about comparisons. I’m saying others have made those comparisons.
    And Green has a long way to go to reach Beal or Lavine.
    Getting to that level is just as much a stretch as Alp getting above Sabonis level
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Ya there are definitely a lot of people on social media that rub me off as that type of fan. When you hear "black player only fans" spammed on Twitter when someone likes Green over Sengun, ya that is sometimes the impression you will get.
     
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    This is just flat out lies. Maybe you’re reading a small portion of peoples posts that confirm your bias, but that isn’t the overall sentiment.
    People praise Alp and in the same breath say but…..
    There’s always a negative, and there’s quite a few on this board that really can’t stand his success. Like Maj and Rocketchamp
     
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    That’s the impression you get. There are literally dudes in this thread that have flat out said Alp has fans because he’s white. There’s no impression to be had.
    It’s weird you can’t see that…..
     
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    Definitely not a stretch. Both Green and Sengun experienced burdens those players didn't at similar ages like doubles and being cente rof defensive attention and still are more impressive statistically than those players at the same age. For example Beal as a sophomore scored only 35% of his fgs made unassisted and still scored at 50% ts at 17 ppg. So low efficiency with low amount of self creation to achieve that low efficiency. Green scores around 60% of his fgm unassisted at 53% ts at 22 ppg. So significantly more self creation with higher efficiency and volume. I just don't see unless some mental health breakdown occurs or some career altering injury like a acl tear how Green doesn't surpass Beal as a player.

    And same with Sengun with Sabonis.
     
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    And you keep bringing up social media, that place is a cesspool. Of course there’s bias on multiple sides. I guarantee you I can find people hating on Alp because of his skin tone, it’s in every comment section.

    Im talking about clutchfans, in this thread alone
     
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    That's the impression I get because that is what I see in social media. A bun h of white people really saying nasty stuff about Green and KPJ that doesn't involve basketball and praising Sengun and wanting him out of a "toxic" situation.

    You can make some very valid assumptions about that type of rhetoric.
     
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    I hope you’re right, I want them to be successful, because it benefits the Rockets.

    Yet you’re defending a dude that denigrates Alp every chance he can?
     
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    I can guarantee it's no where near as prolific as Alpi fans making fun of Green or KPJ having poor "work culture".
     
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    Black Twitter is far worse, it’s not even close. You’re choosing to focus on one side, Twitter and social media is a cesspool.
     
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    I can guarantee it's no where near as prolific as Alpi fans making fun of Green or KPJ having poor "work culture".
    He's degenerated and criticized Alpi as much as you've degenerated and criticized Green over the past 2 years.
     
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    No you can’t. Because it’s not true
     
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    You literally can’t find a single post of me denigrating any of our young pillars. Not one
     
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    "Black Twitter is far worse".

    Oh ya one of those people. Makes a lot of sense now.
     
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    "Black Twitter is far worse".

    Oh ya one of those people. Makes a lot of sense now.
    Just like you frame criticism of Alpi as denigrating I'm doing the same here with you and Green.
     
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    This is how I know you’re biased. Maj is a flat out hater of Alp, and not a rocket fan.

    I haven’t said a single bad thing about Green.
     
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