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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. RHU525

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    No chance his defense is worse than wood..
     
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    Just ignore that dude
     
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    thats why sengun should be the ball handler and runn pick and roll...he should be the lead guard on this team...
     
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    Sounds like the Francis-Mobley-Yao Rockets then...
     
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  5. Easy

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    Sengun will shine if he is truly a great player.

    I don't like fans of certain players constantly blaming coaching and teammates for hampering their heroes. Great players don't get held back. They shine in any circumstances. If they need good teammates and good coaching to be great, then they are not really that great. They are just system players.

    I am not denying the importance of a good system. A good coach maximizes a player's abilities. What I'm saying is that great players will emerge no matter what.

    Players like Jokic, Giannis, even Steph Curry, didn't get to have the team catered to their game. They emerged and the team morphed around them.

    I don't worry about Sengun being held back. I have confidence that he will emerge and the team will look very different. Some of the Sengun fans sound like overprotective parents as if he can't take care of himself and need them to fight off the school yard bullies for him.
     
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    youre a demagogue... no player can succeed if not given playing time or if he is given an absurdly wrong role...curry wouldnt succeed if forced to post up instead of shooting 3s...you sound like a silas mother...youre that overprotective parent you criticise

    jalen green would be a super bust if he was given only 12 minutes to play on most nights and forced to post up instead of attacking in transition and shooting 3s

    go learn some basketball, and logic in general, before spilling out ignorance next time

    another thing, no player or a team can succeed without passionate overprotective fans...and homecourt is an essential to any good team...one of the huge reasons of rockets sucking is lack of the passionate and overprotecting fans..... thats why the commissioner and the refs are wiping the floor with rockets for years now denying them legit deserved titles and wins
    TAKE THAT FOR DATA
     
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  7. Easy

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    LOL. Whatever.

    I have never defended Silas. Overprotective? You are like a mom who jumps up whenever her little boy comes crying. "Who's bullying you? Let me teach them a lesson. No, don't cry. It's never your fault!"

    I am a great Sengun fan from the very beginning. I have more confidence in him than you.
     
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    I agree to this for some extent. I think Curry has mostly been in a system that was suited for him. I do think that overall the Rockets are a mess and generally most players look even worse than they are. I think Sengun will be fine. I do worry that he will need certain types of players around him.
     
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    As you put it having a good system is important to maximize a player's abilities. The problem is that Rockets have NO system. What is this team's phiosophy? What did they want to achieve in terms of a system this year? The only answers given in this forum were tanking and increasing Wood's and Gordon's trade value. And all the rookies are affected very negatively.

    The players you mentioned are mvp caliber and probably one level above Sengun. Even then, once they showed signs of greatness, they have the team catered for their needs.

    Sengun has already shined in assists and post-ups and that even got killed by Silas. If Rockets cannot make use of it, there is a problem that needs to be addressed. He might eventually become a great player. But that does not change that Silas is horrible.
     
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    Jaren is more of a defensive player than an offensive player, and he has made leaps and bounds in that regard, however sometimes his Achilles heel rears its head as it did last night: fouling too much.
    I think that was the biggest reason Jared didn't get going not to say that alperen isn't a good player I think he is, but Jaren could not get going.
     
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    Alp IS good . But that’s why he’s not quite ready yet . Still major kinks to iron out including conditioning and foul management.

    because he is good , other teams target him , and he also gets rookie treatment . I’m a known wood hater and think unless he shows something major over the last quarter our plan is to move on from him and use Alp and our 1st this draft to replace him .

    I think he ups his minutes to mid 20’s per game next year . We need 1-2 more frontcourt players to pick up minutes load . I hope we get 60+ games from him next year .
     
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    It’s time.

     
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    Drazen Petrovic was held back in Portland. Steve Nash in his first stint in Phoenix...
     
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    Watching Sengun play he looks like a guy with a lot of potential who just is inexperienced. He's got the raw skills. He's going to be a very good player. I agree with @Easy that people are a bit overly worried about the coaching or him being set up for success.

    He's on the right trajectory - whether your like Silas or not - It appears to me Sengun is well on his way to realizing his potential. Let's not forget he is 19.

    He needs to improve his shooting for sure, and needs just time man. People need a bit more patience.
     
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    I agree with you. I do think Silas system isn’t friendly to any big men unless they’re perimeter oriented.
    I’m not a fan of his 5 out system at all. I would prefer more motion, back cuts, screens, etc.
    Passing is minimal, too much iso and we’re constantly outrebounded.
     
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    We are undersized and are going to get outrebounded with a young team.

    The passing looks jerky to me, it's not that terrible, and people knock on isolation a bit too much. There is passing, and game by game the passing is getting better and better. The ball is moving it just also gets sticky at times - and a lot of that is players just figuring out what they are good at and exploring things. That's ok - we're a 16 win team and you don't want to optimize team play too early.

    You need to let guys iso and have freedom so they can explore their limits. While iso sucks to watch, you need it because there will be times - especially in playoff games down the road - when you have to iso to exploit matchups. Players have to develop those skills because in a few years, they are going to need them (hopefully).

    People complained a lot when Harden first starting to ISO with McHale - go look at the old threads and how much people (not just the LOFs) but nearly everyone, moaned and groaned at all of Harden's ISO's which many times were quite ugly. Those years of doing that is what turned him into the step back king and probably one of the top 3 iso basketball players in the game.

    Biggest thing with this team is really why Wood and EG get so many minutes. I don't get that and I wish someone could give the real answer.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    Only theory that makes sense to me, is they were trying to upped the trade values of the two they are trying to get rid of,

    Reason y they weren't traded b4 deadline was they didn't want too many first round picks in a year (idk about that explanation).
     
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    The problem with that is iso doesn’t win. Not strictly iso ball.
    There has to be more to an offense than that.

    And to be fair, I’m fine with players I isoing to learn. But let one of our best young players in Sengun do it too.
     

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