Without the toxic SOF base pretty much everyone here would openly agree that at the very least he needs more minutes and a longer leash. I also think what we run is dependent on what the defense is doing. The Rockets have two guards that consistently beat perimeter defenses and are very Jekyll and Hyde outside threats. This is why opposing defenses try zones on this team. When this happens it obviously confuses the team and we consistently see the offense stagnate to a still or a plethora of turnovers during these periods of the defenses playing zone to limit our guard dribble penetration. It's obvious this team is very bad at handling the zone because it pretty much eliminates our most dangerous ability relative to the league and that's dribble penetration. This is precisely when Sengun should shine. This is where he can operate freely in the middle of the high post area doing his thing and watching for cutters and open shooters. That should be our zone busting offense. And our zone busting offense also has to have KMJ because he's our best cutter to the rim and works really well with Sengun's playamking abilities.
You can't be a better scorer than Jalen if you have no threat outside of the restricted zone. -Verbal christ This is not a fact. This is an opinion that is generally tru. It's harder to score more than a guy who can shoot threes but it's not impossible. A person that is efficient and effective at the restricted area could in fact score more if given the chance. This is basically the dumb a$$ argument of is 3 pts always better than 2 pts in the form of green v sengun basically.
Also the nature of basketball it's easier for talented scoring guards to get their buckets than talented scoring bigs because the guards can bring the ball up and don't have to be feed looks unlike bigs.
I don't have a problem with posters being pessimistic for sengun(I do the same thing for KPJ) but I think I know exactly what you are talking about. The actual quality discussion about Sengun where posters make negative but good comments have disappeared mostly. The remaining types are just talking about how pathetic SOFs are, or sentences like 'SOFs are like this or like that, crazy about Sengun etc'. One level worse it becomes 'Sofs are idiots etc.'. These type of stuff bothers me a lot but there is nothing i can do other than ignoring them. I also ignore similar SOFs and try to not to get involved in any of these conversations. There are also trolls that don't like Sengun for some reason(who are mostly in love with kpj) and who look more civil but the standards they apply to Sengun is a whole world different than the rest of the team. I am glad to have you posting on the forum and the only advise I can give is to correspond with posters you have mutual respect (so nothing that you are not aware of ). Enjoy your beer!
Very interesting - this is exactly what the SOFs have been saying. Also very interesting - this too is exactly what the SOFs have been saying.
No there has been a lot more than just saying those two things like for example: putting down other Rockets(primarily our starting backcourt) to prop up Sengun.
Yeah, a bit of that too, but hey: That's in response to Sengun being the scapegoat for our collective defensive woes. Now that I've answered your two points and a third, will you list anything else that comes to your mind?
Another thing. Then there are games like the Celtics where they aren't playing zone and where the guards are able to feast because they are so talented against man to man defenses where you guys still think Sengun should be the center of the offense.
Not at all. I'm too lazy to search for those entries, but I've said numerous times that making Sengun the offensive hub all the time would be disastrous.
It has some underlying assumptions that are not always necessarily true. The reason you can't outscore with 2pts is most players that have effective inside games have to be set up for dunks, lobs to keep that high percentage and it is not easy to do that. Y ou can't create enough lobs and dunks for 30 points. It is much easier to shoot 3s to get to 30 pts. But it is not the case for Alpi. He is actually criticized for not being a lob threat. He creates his shot and still scores effectively. An entry pass to Sengun is much easier than creating a lob. And if not for sengun, other skilled players can potentially (theoretically) be the best players on the court without even having a 3pt shot. But I think in the long run, to develop a defensive strategy for that player would not be very hard if he does not have other skills, mainly a very strong court vision. The more I write the more I feel like I am talking about Sengun
Sengun will have another blowout game Silas, you cannot stop him. Sengun is one of the best young Centers in the NBA
This 'Sengun needs to be center of the offense' is way overblown by posters who are not SOFs. The previous version of this was 'SOFs want sengun to post up all the time, it is not 90s anymore'. Sengun's role should be expanded on offense and the increase in PNR is something in that direction. We should get more hocket assists and assists through sengun. But that's not the same thing as saying he should be the center of offense. From my perspective, Green, Sengun, Jabari and KPJ should be equally weighted in offense, with the ball moving between them more than the current system. Edit: not a direct response to what you said. It is of course normal to have different focus on different games.
Sengun/Green/Bari:Tari/KPJ and the new guy should be used proportionally and the new coach should bring new tactics before and during the game. This is basic, this is essential, this is team first approach. Quin Snyder fits best to this "no franchise guy" system. You need 9 players to become champion and have to make them ready to rise to the occasion. I believe that Rox will be 3 times NBA champs in a decade starting from 2025-26 and hope Tari to become as good as Sengun/JGreen/Jabari/New Guy.
Not just sengun. Green, Jabari and KPJ as well. It is just Silas's dumbness to insist on that. I just hope that he discovers things by accident and claims that this was his plan anyway. Even that is questionable. Harden perfected his game using the foul threat which is not available anymore. And even then it was not enough. Both Harden and Luka are some of the greatest players ever, but when you play that heliocentric system, it is kind of misleading because they raise your floor so quickly and easily, you think that they are great. But at the same time, it is very hard them to get to the level you can win a championship. They are vulnerable in many ways and it is hard to keep other players in good form with so few touches. You still have a shot at it, but balanced teams have better shots.
I wish I knew how to insert gifs properly, because there's so many I'd use to reply to this. I'm just at a loss for words. The bold, especially. I mean. Just, what. How did you even come up with that? A player must be good if you've got to think of that as a weakness. Which is kind of emphatically swatted away when you consider how good of an offensive rebounder he is. It's downright laughable when you then see 'better rebounder' Garuba or Bruno in for clutch possessions who immediately give up the offensive rebound to the opposing team. I tell you what, if Rockets players were played off the court by their weaknesses, the game would be forfeited because you can't play with zero players. Currently doesn't have very good range - checks perimeter efficiency stats. Oh he's the only big man in the top 10. Handles aren't great as an NBA players - currently runs a fast break more efficiently than the team's starting PG. I can't even fathom what point you're even trying to make in your second paragraph rambling. Wow this was a bad post. I should've just copied the other poster who just left it as politely laughing out loud.
Imagine saying what you just said what you did in bold. And somehow thinking that describes Sengun. Literally the ONLY player on this roster apart from Ty (and to a lesser extent Jalen, but I think this is more not having the killer instinct than anything else) who puts the team first. Dude you are literally insane. There are some legitimate gripes people have with Sengun. You've just made two posts in quick succession where you've ignored those legitimate ones, and just made up nonsense. What are you doing? Are you Silas? Maybe that would explain why Sengun is benched so often, because what is happening on the court isn't what you're seeing.
