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Almost everything that is wrong with the offense summed in one video

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by flamingdts, Nov 11, 2021.

  1. Stephen_A

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    Silas isn’t the issue. Player personnel. There’s no go to guy in critical situations. Too many chiefs no true leader of this team. a guy who can’t play point. A rookie who needs the ball in his hands but still growing and developing. An undersized team that lacks physicality. Poor FT shooting. A PF who is too weak to post and plays primarily on perimeter. These are the issues. I think it was the denver game but the rox looked really good when EG was playing point and green was at the 2 along with Sengun at 5. That group looked composed and poised. And I agree a pg that controls pace and protects the ball setting up players is very important and harden made all these players better in the handful of games he played in last year.
     
  2. Stephen_A

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    I don’t agree and no team in the NBA is good without elite personnel. Look at teams like the kings or pelicans. Them boys just don’t have the personnel to be good. elite players make teams go. Ask lebron or CP3. It’s players that run the NBA. You can coach all day but it’s up to players to execute and make decisions and improvise on the court. This is basketball 101. Coaching helps in advice and tactics making adjustments etc but Silas didn’t tell KPJ and wood to miss half their FT. He didn’t tell them to throw the ball out of bounds or lose control dribbling or miss wide open layups. Players control their destiny. Players league.
     
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  3. Stephen_A

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    There’s reports Wall refuses to play with the team and may sit out the whole year. The importance of veteran leadership and a reliable steady PG that calms the offense is so critical. I don’t like what I see in terms of character in KPJ and wood. Wood complained about not getting involved in the offense but yet does nothing to get himself open and never demand the ball in the post. KPJ gave up on running back after missing a wide open layup last night. Character. This is what plagued these players their whole career. That’s why people didn’t want Wood or KPJ. Character. I hope they clean up and just focus on playing and winning with a right spirit bad JVG talked about. A pure spirit dedicated to team and winning. I see it in green and Sengun. I do not see it in Wood and KPJ.
     
  4. Stephen_A

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    KPJ actually locked in this year defensively but his offense and court vision took a back seat for some reason. Green is learning and I love his growth. He’s not being set up by KPJ and needs a true steady pg and also he needs the ball more in his hands to make plays. KPJ ain’t it and wood ain’t it.
     
  5. Stephen_A

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    lots of couch coaches and keyboard gurus here who thinks coaching and playing are so easy while making ludicrous suggestions and unfair criticism. Smh
     
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  6. Stephen_A

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    lackadaisical. I agree. He’s just weak and mediocre in everything he does. Too weak to post. And we have seen he can’t even score with deep position in the paint. Can’t dribble drive past other bigs off elbows. Misses terrible long 2s in critical situations. Just a lot of bad decisions. I think it comes down to character and determination. But dude is lackadaisical
     
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    I did not know about those reports on Wall, thanks for the information!
     
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    Things would indeed look better with an experienced or natural (Josh Giddey) PG. But if we play John Wall and he gets injured its not gonna be great when trade time comes around. It's safe to just let him sit IMO.

    Van Gundy called it right last night. Hope Silas has some sleep meds lol. Because the kids would drive any coach crazy. We got a lot of growing up to do but we've been competitive against good teams. Hell, we stop turning the ball over 19.8 times a game and shooting horribly from the FT line and we might actually win some games haha.
     
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    You claim that Silas isn't the issue and yet most of the things you claim to be personnel issues stem from a lack of experience and leadership from the head coaching seat.

    No go to guy in critical situations? Most NBA teams have plays designed for their go to guy in critical situations. The fact that our coach wants to implement a free flowing offense to a bunch of inexperienced kids doesn't really help the cause.

    Too many chiefs, no true leader of this team? That should be something a head coach helps to establish with a group as young as this. You don't just throw the ball out on the court and say "Go for it, Squid Games style". You run plays for either your best offensive players or your vets and put the onus on them to lead the team.

    Poor FT shooting? What the hell are they doing in practice? It's been well documented that good free throw shooting is the byproduct of repetition, routine, building habits, etc. If you're excusing your quasi point guard to practice on his own terms..what kind of culture are you setting? What kind of practice structure are you really implementing?

    You mention an instance where the Rockets "looked really good when EG was playing point and Green was at the 2 along with Sengun at the 5". Like...you DO realize the head coach is responsible for setting lineups and rotations right? The fact that if this lineup works but he's not using it to the fullest says more about the coach than the players.
     
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    Theis is in Woods spot offensively honestly. He’s not getting the same PnR looks because they force the ball to Theis 12 times a half. I swear most of KP’s turnovers come from force feeding Theis in the paint.

    Theis should be either in the corner or setting off ball screens while wood is given that space to operate up top and off the catch.
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    Ah.. ok. Please calm down as it’s not an argument lol. If you read my other posts it’s very simple. Anyone that’s played the game or have been around organized basketball would understand coaching isn’t easy. Playing isn’t easy. There’s depth to it that people like you are neglecting. The organization and coaching staff likely collaborated and has invested in KPJ as our point. A handful of games isn’t going to dictate major changes in such an investment. At the halfway point or end of year perhaps we could re evaluate. And you don’t know what Silas does unless you’re an insider with in depth informational on the teams routine and regimen. Fact is you don’t know and you’re assuming. Again the coaches arent making KPJ lose the ball. He’s not making them miss FT. He’s not making them
    Jack up long 2s or miss layups and shots deep in the paint. It’s a players league. Players run the NBA and always have. Why do you think dominant players are so dominant. They make things go. They are main cogs in the machine. Make no mistake. It ain’t coaching!
     
  12. Stephen_A

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    interesting. But the fact that he doesn’t post is what hurts him and the team. He refuses to get inside position but settles for 3s, long 2s, and dribble drive that never blows by anyone. And we saw how uncle jeff man handled him in the paint. He’s simply not good enough I’m sorry. He’s not it. He’s not the guy. But as I’ve said he can be if he has dominant stars around him that opens up lanes and open looks.
     
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    lol "people like me" First off, name one single dominant player on this roster. Shouldn't take you too long because there isn't one. That's not an assumption it's a fact. Since there isn't a dominant player on this roster there's no reason to run an offense that heavily relies on the usage of a dominant player. That's what Silas is running right now and it's failing. I'm not even talking about wins and losses--I'm talking about failing to develop the young players he has on this roster. You're right--Silas isn't the one missing free throws or jacking up long 2s. But he's the head coach of a team that, like you said, don't have a true leader. And in these situations where a true leader hasn't been developed yet, you NEED the head coach to be that leader to be that guy that provides structure and criticism. If you watched last night's game (assuming you did), there was a sequence of bad plays over bad plays in the 3rd by House and Porter. That was the ideal time to yank them out so that they know the bad shots they were taking, the lack of urgency in getting back on defense rather than sitting there pouting about a missed layup, are unacceptable. These kids aren't going to yank themselves out of the game nor are they going to know the difference between playing team basketball vs "gonna get mine" basketball if the coach don't, y'know, coach.

    Lastly, the franchise invested in Porter, the player and not Porter, insert specific role here. Kid has talent and potential but that doesn't mean you have to force him into an odd position of not only growing from last year as a player but now you're asking him to facilitate an ad-libbed offense without structure? However you want to divvy up the % it all ends up being 100% on the coach and the front office.
     
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    Yes but note how Olynyk was 6 feet away from Tate when Tate had
    the ball (15 seconds on the shot clock)....clogging up the FT line/paint.

    Daring Tate to shoot as he is straddling the 3-point line. No attempt to
    look at the rim....no threat to shoot!

    Then Tate tries to be the roll man. No threat of a lob pass. This is why I said
    Kenyon Martin gives us the best chance of winning. Easily a lob threat vs
    Olynyk.

    But no it's more important to Patrick Fertitta and Tilman to try to trick some
    poor sucker of a team to trade for House. Not happening.
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    KJ brings so much energy and hustle when he's on the floor. Like his ability to occupy the vertical space around the basket is very high. Lobs, layups, rebounding...you need that kind of energy more than just 14 minutes a night.
     
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  16. Stephen_A

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    Sure you disagree and it’s cool but you lost me when you said there’s no true dominant player. I never even said there’s a dominant player. My point is the team isn’t good enough and green I have no doubt will be that dominant player but not yet. So everyone just chill because wood and KPJ ain’t it. It’s players. Players. Players. Lol
     
  17. Denovo

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    He doesn’t have to be a post player that’s not his game. He would get plenty of easy looks if he was willing to set actual screens and be a lob threat and pop out for the 3 when the defense adjusts. If would make both Porter and Green’s lives easier if we ran a heavy PnR offense.

    Wood is not a first option or franchise player but he can score with no problem when he’s not trying to handle and be KD. Scoring isnt an issue for him his outside of free throws. He had 17 at halftime then wasn’t involved in our disfunctional offense after the break.

    That’s on Silas.
     
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    That makes no sense. The players are literally screwing up.
     
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    He's definitely not the answer at point.
     
  20. Texanasiafan

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    I made above post in Sept.

    Nothing really surprised me after that.
     

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