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Allen Iverson--traded?!?!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by JayZ750, Jun 4, 2000.

  1. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

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    Why is Larry Brown even considering trading Allen Iverson. I realize that they argue sometimes, but Iverson is the player that singlehandedly revived Sixer basketball, increasing ticketsales drastically as well as leading them to the 2nd round two years in a row. Now it is time they move forward, not backwards, by adding role players other than Geiger or Lynch that can actually be effective and learning to make use of Eric Snow and Mckie more.

    That being said, here is a deal I would really like if I was the Sixers.

    Lamar Odom, Mo Taylor and number 3 pick (to draft SSwift) for Iverson.

    Didn't know where to post this but thought since it pertained to the NBA in general this is as good a spot as any.

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  2. BobFinn*

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    I think if the sixers made that offer to the clips, they just might do it. They are gonna lose Odom & Taylor anyway. The question is, will me, myself & Iverson wanna play there.

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  3. vince

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    Wow that trade works both ways.

    The clippers would be Iversons to do as he pleases!!!

    Then the Sixers would get an awsome SF, an all star PF in Taylor, and one of 4 almost certain superstars of tomorrow.

    This trade looks good for both teams.

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  4. R0ckets03

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    Mo, Odom, and Swift might be too much for ball hogging Iverson. Dont get me wrong, but I think the guy is just too big of a ball hog to be a team player. Of course I havent seen any Philly games so Im not sure whether I'm accurate or not. But if the Clippers are sure Odom is going to leave sooner or later then I would go ahead with the deal.

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  5. MrSpur

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    The question should be...how much farther
    does the Philly organization believe that
    it can go in the playoffs with Iverson as
    the franchise player?

    What needs to be added to the team to
    make that happen?

    Who needs to go?

    Or is a team with Iverson so fundamentally
    flawed that it cannot achieve real playoff
    success?

    If he was committed to winning, he'd play
    the point and show up for the practices on
    time.

    That Snow and Iverson backcourt might just
    be the flaw. Until they can find a big
    point, Philly may be SOL.

    A crazy idea may have been to have Kukoc
    run the offense and put Lynch at the 3
    with Iverson at the 2...

    I think that Iverson's biggest flaw is his
    commitment. If he wants to win, he should
    be willing to do whatever it takes.
    Hopefully Magic made that clear to this
    'poor' young multimillionaire.

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  6. BobFinn*

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    When Iverson is on the court, he is 120% hustle. He does everything, rebound, pass and yes he scores a lot ,but, If you look at the sixers roster, who the hell else is gonna score? Ratliff, Snow, Gieger, Hill. None of these guys has ever been a scorer nor will they ever be. Calling Iverson a ballhog is rediculous. Brown wants Iverson to touch the ball every trip down.

    He missed a couple of practices, ok, Iverson is no Rodman!!!

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  7. Puedlfor

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    Iverson didn't just miss a "couple" of practices.

    He was fined something like 75 times by the Sixers this year.

    He probably won't hit the weightroom this summer either, which would cut down on those injuries he plays through.

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  8. Rocketman95

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    Wow, I guess playing with a broken foot, hurt ribs, and bone spurs in the elbow means you don't want to win.

    While we have Dream, who won't take medicine because it makes his stomach hurt. Or Cato, who's out for a month with a wrist injury.

    If more people played with the passion and desire of Iverson, Sprewell (broken foot), Camby, Carlos Rogers (plays the same day his brother dies), or a number of other players, this league would be better off.

    Basically, don't believe everything you hear. If the guy didn't have tatoos everywhere and wear a bandana to press conferences, this wouldn't even be an issue.

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  9. Puedlfor

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    If Iverson wanted to win, he wouldn't have been late for every playoff game the Sixers had.

    You know how many times Magic Johnson(whom Iverson asked for advice) was late for anything in his career? None.

    I won't question his heart, he has plenty of that, but he could cut down on his injuries if he hit the weight room. And he could improve his relationship with his coach and front office by showing up for practice on time.

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  10. thacabbage

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    If you've never seen the Sixers play, then why are you calling him a ballhog?

    The guy's only 24 and he's already lead them into the second round of the playoffs, singlehandedly, two years in a row. If the Philly organization wanted to win, they would get to work on getting him some help. They really screwed up on that Hughes-Kukoc trade.

    Why is it that he has to play the point? You're going to deny a guy of his scoring/creating ability, just because he is only 6'0 tall? If the goal is to have a "bigger backcourt", couldn't the same be said for any other shooting guard? Following this logic, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Penny Hardaway, Allan Houston, and Steve Smith are all not committed to winning because they will not play point guard. And while we're at it, name one other guy who plays professional basketball with a broken toe, fractured ankle, bruised ribs, torn rotator cup, and bum elbow.

    I would call playing through every injury in the book, "committed to winning." Isnt that "doing whatever it takes."?

    He plans to hire a personal trainer this summer.

    But then again, I guess you all can't seem to get past the tattoos and the "bad boy" image. I doubt any of you claiming that Iverson is a ball-hog follow the Sixers as much as I do. Name one other player on that team that can create their own shot. Ratliff, Geiger, Ty Hill, and Mckie...those are all defensive specialists, hustle players. Eric Snow is their for defense and stabilizing the offense. Kukoc is a passer. Who else on the team is there to take shots? The Sixers threw away their only shot at trading for another scorer when they gave Hughes to GState for free, yet the blame still falls on Iverson. A guy who singlehandedly leads his team into the second-round of the playoffs, yet they still want to trade him....absolutely amazing.
     
  11. MrSpur

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    Good points all.

    But playing through pain and being a leader
    are two separate items.

    Whatever respect he gains from his teammates
    by playing through pain is eroded when they
    see him consistently disregard rules that
    they abide by.

    Anyways, is a team with a small backcourt
    like Philly's going to be limited in the
    playoffs? I think so. Pairing McKie with
    Iverson seemed to work, but not with the
    smaller Snow.




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  12. RocketsPimp

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    Why would the Clips trade Odom, arguably their best player, in just the second year of his contract?

    Even they aren't that stupid.

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  13. JayZ750

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    I agree with thecabbage also. As a resident of Philadelphia, I caught many Sixers games, and thecabbage is right, Iverson is no ballhog but rather the best player by far and away on the team. Also, he has managed to singlehandedlyget the Sixers to the 2nd round two years in a row, improving each year. Also, I really do not think the backcourt was the problem. Snow and Iverson, when healthy, are an extremely effective duo. The problem, point blank, is George Lynch, Matt Geiger, and the lack of play/leadership of Toni Kukoc in the playoffs.

    Iverson should show up on time and be fined less. Shame on him!

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