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Allen Iverson traded to Denver

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Dr. Basketball, Dec 19, 2006.

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  1. Omer

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    Wow, they have the top 2 scorers in the league now.

    If they start to defer to each other, I'm scared as **** right now.

    Philadelphia is r****ded, Andre Miller and Joe Smith. Unbelievable.
     
  2. tinman

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    phili is not dumb, they are tanking on purpose to get oden in the draft.
     
  3. dfwrox

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    Isn't Karl a good friend of Larry Brown?
     
  4. hooroo

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    Well, if they're in salary dump mode and depending on Sura's contract conditions (potentially an expiring contract if he retires)... Sura for Korver.
     
  5. wnes

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    Probably not much more than a North Carolina connection.
     
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    So Nuggets4 was telling the truth when he said that Denver was going to land iverson, and many would be amazed how little it cost them. Good call Nugget4.
     
  7. choujie

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    They have Isiah Thomas connection now.
     
  8. ymc

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    RealGM says we can do Juwon Howard + Alston + Sura for AI. Why didn't we pull that off? :confused: :confused: :confused:

    It seems to me this offer is more attractive than Denver's
     
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    That Billy King guy is r****ded. Almost as dumb as Thomas and Layden.
     
  10. sammy

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    Well they did get two first round picks but im not sure where the other pick is coming from. The upcoming draft seems to be deep and they save $10 million next season so they will have room to sign a FA.
     
  11. choujie

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    Time will tell. Personally I think he did good this time. A top notch PG + one expiring contract + 2 first rounders is going to help his club more than AI in a long run. That Webber trade was horrible though.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Karl's a long time buddy of Brown via Doug Moe, KiKi, and the Tar heel connection, and wouldn't shut up about it when Brown got fired last year.
     
  13. sammy

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    I hope your kidding.
     
  14. Lil Pun

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    I am interested to see how this is going to work out when Melo gets back.
     
  15. tinman

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    hello folks. the sixers are trying to get the #1 pick in the draft.
    why cant some of you figure that out?

    joe smith comes off the books this season too.
     
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    For everyone amazed at "how low Iverson's stock became," it didn't. Billy King is just this bad of a GM. I posted at the onset that whatever happened, he'd pull the trigger on a bad deal. Here it is.

    They decide they want to rebuild for the future; sensible. They decide that means clearing cap room/grabbing draft picks/getting a young up and comer (they were hot for Foye).

    Young Up&Comer --> Andre Miller (oops)
    Draft Picks --> Two at the back end of this years draft (both in the 20s, probably)
    Cap Space --> They'll shave $7 million (Joe Smith) off a payroll over $70 million for 2007. Won't even get close to the cap.

    They really blow it in classic King fashion. They never really wanted Andre because he has two more years on his deal at close to $9 million per year. They wanted a third team to flip him into an expiring deal or a young guy but it didn't happen. Getting two low-end draft picks might help, but it's unlikely they'll be a franchise guy plus first rounders mean guaranteed contracts and less cap space. Cap space is where they really blew it. They needed to ditch two contracts to have cap room: Iverson ($20 million next year) and Webber ($22 million). Essentially, they only cut out half of AI's deal, and leave Webber on the books. They can't cut Webber to get the room, his deal will stay on the books if they do. If they had a chance to lose Webber, this was it. They could have tried pawning off Dalembert's $10 million/year deal if no one would take Webber but didn't.

    Ugly.

    They have no future franchise guy unless they luck out in this year's lottery (which they could have done anyway), and there's little hope for cap space in the next 2 years. Rebuilds have to be total clean outs or they don't work - see the Knicks on that.

    Evan
     
  17. sammy

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    the deal becomes a lot sweeter if they get Oden.
     
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    Don't see how he can be considered 'r****ded'.

    A.) His hand was forced. He definetely would have taken the Charlotte offer had Iverson not made it known that he wasn't going to play in Charlotte.

    B.) Teams like Minnesota, Boston, and the Clips were unwilling to part with young studs like Foye, Green/Jefferson, and Livingston for AI.

    C.) The more time Iverson sat there the less he would get for him. To be able to get a true PG and draft picks for a team that will most likely have Oden next year I think he did well.

    He would have been dumb had he taken huge contracts/over the hill players back. Those are Layden/Thomas moves.
     
  19. tinman

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    thanks sammy,
    we are the only two people here who understand this. having joe smith and andre miller will make them the worst team in the east.
     
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