I could almost live with Steve's game. He has his good points and his bad points. Thing is, most of the WC teams just keep getting better, while the EC....well, at least it has two teams that could actually win it all this year. But there's a steep drop-off after that. So we might have to trade Steve to keep up with the Joneses (if not surpass, which, of course, would work for me).
Trading away SF3 might piss Yao off enough that he will bolt after 4 years. However, it might be a great idea to trade away Yao since all the Rockets fans want is someone that can destroy Shaq+Marlone combo in his sophomore year. I am not sure that player ever exists, maybe Wilt could have done it. But I highly doubt it will happen.
Acctuly if we bring in som1 like ray allen and show yao that we are trying to surrond him w/ people he can play off of, he might be happy about it..
He has a p-opt just like McGrady this season and Grant is a great person. You might can talk to him in opting out and being resigned at a lower value. For those who who wouldn't give up Francis,Mobley,Cato,and the TE for Hill,McGrady,and Lue, why not? Is it because of Hill's max deal, but look at Penny. Is it because of Lue, look at his shooting,asst/to ratio while playing with a big man in La. Hill, will never be Hill, but if he gets back on the court for the IQ of you hoops team is very high again. Once Jim Jackson messed his ankle up, much like Hill did, he was never the same player. Jackson use to be a 25ppg scorer, but after a highankle sprain, he is what he is now, still a very smart fundemental player. Grant Hill used to be Mr Triple double and a MVP candidate, but now he's probably more like 14ppg,6rebs,6asst type of guy. If he decides to retire, he comes off the books quicker. Anyway it goes,its worth it to get a top 8 player in this league along with a guy like Lue.
Hey, I am all for the trade. I was just curious about when Hill would come off the books. McGrady is only 25. Yao is 23 or so? Match those two up and you have a top notch duo for the next decade!
I agree with you about McGrady and Yao. In the West, those two alone would give us as good a duo as any, excluding Shaq and Kobe. He would be the ideal scorer to relieve the burden on Yao. He can get his own shot at any time, against any defense, and is a very good passer when he wants to be. Along with Kobe, the best twoguard in the league. Regardless of what we give up to get him, it would be well worth it.
why would any great offensive player wanna play in JVG's handcuffs? grumpy's vision of Knicks II, the much fabled "system" spells death for any player not content to pass inside and shoot threes ... all game long. some poor unwilling sucker, captive to a contract, may be forced to endure the "system". but he'll bolt at first opportunity if ole man grumpy is still coach.
Do you have a credible link for that? We've got Yao locked up for 3 more seasons after this one. I'm not really too concerned what he does in his 6th season. It reminds me of the talk a few years ago that Francis wouldn't resign and bolt for Washington to play for Jordan. I don't doubt for a minute that if you asked Yao if he wanted Francis traded, that he'd say no. In fact, if you asked Yao the same question about any of his teammates, I'd bet he'd say that he didn't want them traded. Realistically, what else would you expect him to say? As for the part about not getting back equal value or adapting their game, I have a tough time believing that came from Yao.
Why? Because you would be happy about it? Of course Yao isn't going to say he wants SF traded. But if you think about it, Steve is the only one that sticks up for Yao (look when Amare dunked on him), he is the most excited when Yao does something good, and he is the only one that praises Yao. It might not seem like such a big deal, but you're new in the league, new to the country, new to the culture, things like that stick your mind. Even though you may not think it, Steve maybe helping Yao adjust to the game more than anyone else is, including JVG. Thats why I wanted to keep Rudy, a father figure type to help develop Yao, and someone Yao can depend on when he needs to.
Allan Houston had no problems with JVG's system. In fact, he flourished in it. I don't see how T-Mac's offense would be hindered with our offense. Sure, he won't score as many points. But Tim Duncan only scores 22 pts a game, not nearly as much as T-Mac, yet still considered possibly the best player today. If McGrady wants to win, he'll play in Houston. Otherwise, he'd probably reject the trade here by telling the Rockets he'll opt out after next year.
aye. he's content to jack up threes all day. not sure if he qualifies as a great offensive player. but he's a pretty good shooter.
No TMAC please. He's going to be a loser. The best thing about Steve is his heart, and TMAC doesn't have it. At least Steve is trying to change his style of play for the team, but I bet TMAC won't. The guy even said he felt good that Grant Hill couldn't come back to play so he didn't have to share the ball with him or something like that.
420 was yesterday, So i dont know what your smoking. If I recall tmac lead his team to playoffs last year when the team wasnt even that great. I would definitely like to see that quote where he says he was happy hill was injured so he can be a ball hog. Are you talking about the same tmac who is going to opt out of a max contract so he can win. If tmac came here he wouldnt have to change his style of play. Unlike SF tmac doesnt need to do some fancy dribbles that waste time. Tmac also has an excellent midrange game which steve doesnt have and can also score in the paint.
Well it's just my opinion. I just don't believe a superstar would let his team go 0-19 with decent talent in East and end up with last in East even though he had problem with his coach. Losing 0-19 to get rid of Rivers really showed how selfish the guy can be. I believe Francis would never have done that if he was in that situation. To tell you the truth, between Francis and Tmac, I'd rather have Francis. As for the quote, I saw it somewhere last year so I can't remember where the link is. That's what made me dislike him. But you don't have to believe my since I won't be able to provide the link now.
It is true that the magic went 0-19 and tmac did said somethings he shouldnt have,like retiring because of the zone defense, but i would prefer him over SF. It just shows that tmac cant do it all and besides orlando is just a poor team period, replace tmac with any other superstar and you would still be in last place. Well any superstar other then duncan, kg and shaq. Tmac would give us one of the most prolific scorers in the league paired with one of the best low post threats in the league. I dont care what city you are in, that combo alone should bring in fans. Although we dont know how tmac will adjust or if he will adjust at all I think tmac yao would bring us more titles then steve and yao could ever.
Blame the Magic on McGrady if you want to, but they didn't get the worst record because of his lack of production. He is a proven clutch player who some considered an MVP candidate when he was leading his team to the playoffs. As for the system, he may not lead the league in scoring, but he would definitely be the unquestioned first option. Give him some real teammates to play with, and a legit second star (Yao) to help inside and then see if he can lead an elite team. Steve hasn't yet.
Well, Houston is just not as good a talent as McGrady. I just mentioned him because he was a guard who had no problems in JVG's system. T-Mac is also a pretty good shooter. He should be able to get his shots.
would i take the risk of taking on Hill's contract to land McGrady??? maybe we already have the dud contracts of Cato and MoT..... presumably one or both of those would have to go to land McGrady and Hill..... the key is though does that improve out most pressing needs of improving the 4 and 1
