Gallery is starting at Left Tackle, for the first time he was drafted. Turner was a ****ing moron. If Gallery is still anchoring the line a few seasons from now I don't think you can call him a bust.
Antoine Davis and Kevin Allen were both high round Eagles OL draftees and colossal failures to a man. Not only was Allen a huge bust, but players he was drafted in front of include perennial All Pros like Jerry Gray, Andre Reed, Jim Lachey, Randall Cunningham, Kevin Greene, Jay Novacek, and a little known WR from MVSU named Jerry Rice - and that was just the back end of the draft. The front end included Bruce Smith, Ray Childress, Lomas Brown, and Chris Doleman.
Is the expansion Draft included? if so... Tony Boselli others.... Hart Lee Dykes Ricky Williams Ron Dayne Dimitrius Underwood Yatil Green Sylvester Morris Quintan Coryatt Tommy Vardell Rae Carruth Andre Wadsworth
How is Jerome Brown a bust? Multiple all pro selections plus dying early =/ a bust. I'm pretty sure there are a ****load of DT's drafted in the top 10 (Brown was picked 9th) who had careers that were not as noteworthy - Russell Maryland, Steve Emtman, Dan Wilkinson (all drafted #1 overall) just to name a few. EDIT: Hell, in 1987, the year Brown was drafted, he wasn't even the top DL in the draft. That was the immortal Reggie Rogers, from Washington, who totaled 4 sacks in a 4 year long career despite not facing the handicap of death. The only DL remotely close to Brown's level in the draft was Jerry Ball, who went to 3 pro bowls and had 3 more sacks despite playing 13 seasons to Brown's 5 (one of which Brown was injured for).
given your signature, I assume you're a UH fan. so in your reply, don't tell me you're implying that Ware and Klingler were really badass NFL QBs, but it's just that the Lions and Bengals ruined them...? Barry Sanders turned out fine (more than fine actually). Ware and Klingler just sucked as NFL players
I don't know if Darrell Russell was a complete bust. He had two double-digit sack seasons and went to pro-bowl twice.
You're right, I might take him back from my initial suggestion; even thoguh he managed to both get himself banned from football and banned from life he was good when he played.
You joke, but I think its valid...David Sucks Arse... I would say Ricky Williams, Mike Williams (USC WR in Detroit), David Klingler, Andre Ware...
Honestly, I didn't think he had played five years. I know he was great, but he died and the Eagles only got 2-3 (I thought) seasons out of a very high draft pick. To me that qualified as a bust. Five seasons is better but still a bust to me. This is meant to be humorless and without sympathy. For whatever reason, was the player worth the price paid in dollars and draft position?
Ware's holdout is what ruined him. He missed all of camp, never really got up to speed, then when it was over the team had moved on without him. Sanders was great, but hey, teams can have great running backs and crappy QB performance simultaneously. (Domanick Davis/David Carr, Priest Holmes/LJ/Chiefs Various QBs, Jamal Lewis/Various Ravens QBs, Various Denver RBs/Various Denver QBs) Ask anybody, learning curve for an RB is pretty low, so if you're great or put into a runner friendly system its going to work. Klingler, however, went to the blackhole of talent in the NFL.. don't even try and deny that. (also, when the Saints drafted Ricky Williams they sucked major arse, and well, Ricky sucked right along with them.. he went to Miami and became a stud, food for thought)
They got four (he was injured for most of one year) HIGHLY productive season out of him, and he died at 27. He probably had 2-3 really good years left before a dropoff and he became a big fat DT and not a big quick DT, but he played at the highest level for a significant period - not just pro bowl level but consensus all-pro level, which is a big difference (pro bowls are sometimes a questionable measure, IMO) Considerng that Gale Sayers got to the Hall of Fame with only 5 productive seasons (he played small parts of 2 more seasons, after injuries ruined him), I'd say 4 is enough to at least get Brown out of bust status and that it s pretty unreasonable to think otherwise. As far as whether Brown was "worth the Price" you can (and I have) name multipl defensive linemen, drafted higher and paid more, whose combined career accomplishments don't match his; hell look at the entire first round the year he was drafted (9th) - Round 1 Sel# Team Player Pos. School 1 Tampa Bay Vinny Testaverde QB Miami 2 Indianapolis Cornelius Bennett OLB Alabama 3 Houston Alonzo Highsmith RB Miami 4 Green Bay Brent Fullwood RB Auburn 5 Cleveland Mike Junkin ILB Duke 6 St. Louis Kelly Stouffer QB Colorado State 7 Detroit Reggie Rogers DE Washington 8 Buffalo Shane Conlan MLB Penn State 9 Philadelphia Jerome Brown DT Miami 10 Pittsburgh Rod Woodson FS Purdue 11 New Orleans Shawn Knight NT Brigham Young 12 Dallas Danny Noonan DT Nebraska 13 Atlanta Chris Miller QB Oregon 14 Minnesota D.J. Dozier RB Penn State 15 L.A. Raiders John Clay T Missouri 16 Miami John Bosa DE Boston College 17 Cincinnati Jason Buck DE Brigham Young 18 Seattle Tony Woods DE Pittsburgh 19 Kansas City Paul Palmer RB Temple 20 Houston Haywood Jeffires WR North Carolina State 21 N.Y. Jets Roger Vick RB Texas A&M 22 San Francisco Harris Barton T North Carolina 23 New England Bruce Armstrong T Louisville 24 San Diego Rod Bernstine RB Texas A&M 25 San Francisco Terrence Flagler RB Clemson 26 Chicago Jim Harbaugh QB Michigan 27 Denver Ricky Nattiel WR Florida 28 N.Y. Giants Mark Ingram WR Michigan State Of those players, I would say that Rod Woodson (HOF player), Harris Barton and Cornelius Bennett can say they had more productive careers - the other 25 were all either vastly inferior to Brown (Junkin, Stouffer, Fullwood, Highsmith, Rogers - each drafted ahead of Brown, were all pretty much total chumps) despite not having been killed in a car accident. Maybe ShAne Conlan and Vinny Testaverde can argue that they're on par with him, though they were drafted higher. Particularly weak are the defensive lineman in that draft. If you aggregate the entire careers of the other DL drafted that year, their combined accomplishments are inferior to that of Brown. Talk about busts....
