Here is my trade proposal. Ricky in: Jrue Holiday Ricky out: Darren Collison, 8th rounder (#1) Arjun in: Darren Collison, 8th rounder (#1) Arjun out: Jrue Holiday
Better 3 pt shooter (Jameer 40% vs Harris 36%), better assist % (33.7 vs 28.3), better steal % (1.7 vs 1.3), better offensive rating (109 vs 107), better defensive rating (104 vs 114). But to Devin Harris' credit, he averages 1 fewer turnover per 100 possessions compared to Jameer.
If you can't work something out with arjun, would you want to move down to 15 and swap your 8th rounder for #24 in this round?
it's better but im sorry, i really liked the way Jrue Holiday played in the playoffs against Miami and I'm counting on the voters to remember that...darren collison was a huge disappointment all season after showing good signs in new orleans..i'm going to have to respectfully decline, sorry spooner man
My 1st pick now plus 1st pick in the 8th for your 15th and 24th in this round? Sounds good to me. If I can't work something out with arjun, he'll just be a man short, and I'll use my 9th selection on Yao just for Rocket pride.
forget numbers....watch basketball...i'd rather have devin harris running my team than jameer nelson....what is your arguement?? that jameer has 5% better assist percentage?? lol...2 pts better in offensive rating?? thats weak. watch the games, devin harris is much better at creating for his teammates, and devin harris is great in the open court...also a MUCH better finisher around the rim.. Defensive rating?? come on...jameer nelson has DWIGHT HOWARD to make up for his mistakes..allowing him to take more chances and risks. i am pretty certain devin harris is a better on ball defender because he is much more athletic
FIRST ROUND Spoiler 1. dharocks - Dwight Howard 2. ICanDunkOnYao - Dirk Nowitzki 3. BleedRocketRed - LeBron James 4. arjun - Kevin Durant 5. Bob MonkeySon - Dwyane Wade 6. Spooner - Derrick Rose 7. freeze00up - Kobe Bryant 8. thething - Chris Paul 9. RedNation - Deron Williams 10. YourSecretLover - Carmelo Anthony 11. Hoopstar - Amar'e Stoudemire 12. wekko368 - Kevin Garnett 13. Spooner (via trade) - Kevin Love 14. Sydeffect- Blake Griffin 15. torque (via trade) - Rajon Rondo 16. Jmcballer88 - LaMarcus Aldridge 17. Showtizzle2642 - Danny Granger 18. AFS - Rudy Gay 19. da_juice - Kevin Martin 20. VBG - Zach Randolph 21. fadeaway - Pau Gasol 22. Ubigman - Russell Westbrook 23. RocketsRed14 - Gerald Wallace 24. RowdyRicky - Marc Gasol SECOND ROUND Spoiler 1. Ubigman (via trade) - Chris Bosh 2. RocketsRed14 - Andrew Bogut 3. Ubigman - Al Horford 4. fadeaway - Josh Smith 5. dharocks - Steve Nash 6. da_juice - Andre Iguodala 7. AFS - Al Jefferson 8. Showtizzle2642 - Andrew Bynum 9. Jmcballer88 - Manu Ginobili 10. Spooner (via trade) - Brook Lopez 11. Sydeffect - Tyson Chandler 12. RedNation (Via Trade)- Paul Pierce 13. wekko368 - Nene 14. hoopstar - Luol Deng 15. YourSecretLover - Joakim Noah 16. RedNation - Tim Duncan 17. greenhippos (via trade) - Monta Ellis 18. freeze00up - David West 19. ICanDunkOnYao (via trade) - Tyreke Evans 20. Bob MonkeySon - Luis Scola 21. torque (via trade) - Joe Johnson 22. BleedRocketRed - John Wall 23. wekko368 - Stephen Curry 24. VBG - Eric Gordon THIRD ROUND Spoiler 1. VBG - Lamar Odom 2. greenhippos (via trade) - Tony Parker 3. YourSecretLover (via trade) - Serge Ibaka 4. thething (via trade) - Paul Milsap 5. Bob MonkeySon - Roy Hibbert 6. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Ray Allen 7. freeze00up - JaVale McGee 8. arjun (via trade) - David Lee 9. greenhippos (via trade) - JJ Hickson 10. BleedRocketRed (via trade) - Wesley Matthews 11. hoopstar - Marcin Gortat 12. wekko368 - Jason Richardson 13. ICanDunkOnYao (via trade) - Chauncey Billups 14. Sydeffect - James Harden 15. arjun (via trade) - Stephen Jackson 16. Jmcballer88 - Kyle Lowry 17. Showtizzle2642 - Carl Landry 18. AFS - Raymond Felton 19. da_juice - Elton Brand 20. VBG - Jason Kidd 21. fadeaway - Carlos Boozer 22. arjun (via trade) - Jrue Holiday 23. thething (via trade) - Jason Terry 24. Torque (via trade) - Emeka Okafor FOURTH ROUND Spoiler 1. RowdyRicky - Wilson Chandler 2. thething (via trade) - Tayshaun Prince 3. RedNation (via trade) - O.J. Mayo 4. BleedRocketRed (via trade) - Marcus Camby 5. VBG - Caron Butler 6. da_juice - Kendrick Perkins 7. AFS - Anderson Varejão 8. Showtizzle2642 - Landry Fields 9. Jmcballer88 - DeAndre Jordan 10. torque (via trade) - Andrea Bargnani 11. Sydeffect - Dorrell Wright 12. Torque - Danilo Gallinari 13. RocketsRed14 (via trade) - DeMarcus Cousins 14. hoopstar - Ty Lawson 15. fadeaway (via trade) - DeMar DeRozan 16. arjun (via trade) - Shawn Marion 17. thething - Chris Kaman 18. freeze00up - Andrei Kirilenko 19. RocketsRed14 (via trade) - Jamal Crawford 20. Bob MonkeySon - Mike Conley 21. thething (via trade) - Devin Harris 22. BleedRocketRed - Derrick Williams 23. greenhippos (via trade) - Channing Frye 24. VBG (via trade) - Nicolas Batum FIFTH ROUND 1. dharocks - J.R. Smith 2. ICanDunkOnYao - Thaddeus Young 3. fadeaway (via trade) - Chuck Hayes 4. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Goran Dragic 5. BobMonkeySon - Richard Jefferson 6. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Darren Collison 7. freeze00up - Andre Miller 8. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Greg Monroe 9. RedNation - Samuel Dalembert 10. YourSecretLover - Arron Afflalo 11. hoopstar - Metta World Peace 12. wekko368 - Jameer Nelson 13. RocketsRed14 (via trade) - Marcus Thornton 14. Sydeffect - Rodney Stuckey 15. greenhippos (via trade) - Andray Blatche 16. Jmcballer88 - Michael "I Smoke Bud" Beasley 17. Showtizzle2642 - SKIPPED 18. AFS - Nick Young 19. da_juice - SKIPPED 20. YourSecretLover (via trade) - Kyrie Irving 21. fadeaway - Brandon Jennings 22. Ubigman - Antawn Jamison 23. thething (via trade) - Jeff Green 24. RowdyRicky - Grant Hill SIXTH ROUND 1. RowdyRicky - Brendan Haywood 2. RocketsRed14 3. Ubigman 4. Fadeaway 5. VBG 6. da_juice 7. AFS 8. Showtizzle2642 9. Jmcballer88 10. greenhippos 11. Sydeffect 12. torque 13. ICanDunkOnYao (via trade) 14. hoopstar 15. dharocks (via trade) 16. torque (via trade) 17. thething 18. freeze00up 19. greenhippos (via trade) 20. Bob MonkeySon 21. greenhippos (via trade) 22. dharocks (via trade) 23. wekko368 (via trade) 24. dharocks FUTURE TRADES: 1) RocketsRed14 owns thething's 7th round selection 2) Ubigman owns RowdyRicky's 7th round selection 3) torque owns RedNation's 7th round selection 4) Spooner owns torque and greenhippos' 7th round selections 5) BleedRocketRed owns fadeaway's 8th round selection 6) dharocks owns VBG's 8th round selection 7) YourSecretLover owns dharocks' 8th round selection 8) arjun owns thething's 8th round selection 9) Spooner owns arjun's 8th round selection 10) ICanDunkOnYao owns greenhippos' 8th round selection 11) RedNation owns ICanDunkonYao and torque's 8th round selections
My final team, after a good amount of pick piling. PG: Collison/Dragic SG: Allen/Dragic SF: Chandler/Hill PF: Monroe/ Hill/Haywood C: Gasol/Haywood
Smart pick. I would have taken him at 17 for sure if available. Really good defensive center. Better than Dalembert IMO.
Actually, i made a mistake with Harris's numbers. I only listed his stats for Utah. Factoring in his NJ performance, his AST% goes to 38, better than Jameer. But his 3pt shooting drops to 32.3%. That's pretty bad. And both Harris and Jameer had a 1.7% steal % so I'm not so sure that Devin Harris is a better on-the-ball defender. My argument for Jameer is that his style is similar to Devin Harris, except he's a much better shooter. That's why I think he's better.