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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by VBG, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Ricksmith

    Ricksmith Member

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    Here is my trade proposal.

    Ricky in: Jrue Holiday
    Ricky out: Darren Collison, 8th rounder (#1)

    Arjun in: Darren Collison, 8th rounder (#1)
    Arjun out: Jrue Holiday
     
  2. Ricksmith

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    Yeah i have the first pick in the 8th.
     
  3. wekko368

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    Better 3 pt shooter (Jameer 40% vs Harris 36%), better assist % (33.7 vs 28.3), better steal % (1.7 vs 1.3), better offensive rating (109 vs 107), better defensive rating (104 vs 114).

    But to Devin Harris' credit, he averages 1 fewer turnover per 100 possessions compared to Jameer.
     
  4. dharocks

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    If you can't work something out with arjun, would you want to move down to 15 and swap your 8th rounder for #24 in this round?
     
  5. arjun

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    it's better but im sorry, i really liked the way Jrue Holiday played in the playoffs against Miami and I'm counting on the voters to remember that...darren collison was a huge disappointment all season after showing good signs in new orleans..i'm going to have to respectfully decline, sorry spooner man
     
  6. Ricksmith

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    My 1st pick now plus 1st pick in the 8th for your 15th and 24th in this round? Sounds good to me. If I can't work something out with arjun, he'll just be a man short, and I'll use my 9th selection on Yao just for Rocket pride.
     
  7. Spooner

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    its cool dude
     
  8. dharocks

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    Cool. Sounds like arjun is gonna hang on to Holiday. Okay if I pick?
     
  9. Ricksmith

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    Darren
    Jrue
     
  10. Ricksmith

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    delete
     
  11. arjun

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    forget numbers....watch basketball...i'd rather have devin harris running my team than jameer nelson....what is your arguement?? that jameer has 5% better assist percentage?? lol...2 pts better in offensive rating??

    thats weak. watch the games, devin harris is much better at creating for his teammates, and devin harris is great in the open court...also a MUCH better finisher around the rim..

    Defensive rating?? come on...jameer nelson has DWIGHT HOWARD to make up for his mistakes..allowing him to take more chances and risks. i am pretty certain devin harris is a better on ball defender because he is much more athletic
     
  12. Ricksmith

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    No to my trade arjun?
     
  13. arjun

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    yup sry man
     
  14. Ricksmith

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    screw it, sorry dharocks. I gotta get my center while he's still out there.
     
  15. dharocks

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  16. Ricksmith

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    FIRST ROUND
    1. dharocks - Dwight Howard
    2. ICanDunkOnYao - Dirk Nowitzki
    3. BleedRocketRed - LeBron James
    4. arjun - Kevin Durant
    5. Bob MonkeySon - Dwyane Wade
    6. Spooner - Derrick Rose
    7. freeze00up - Kobe Bryant
    8. thething - Chris Paul
    9. RedNation - Deron Williams
    10. YourSecretLover - Carmelo Anthony
    11. Hoopstar - Amar'e Stoudemire
    12. wekko368 - Kevin Garnett
    13. Spooner (via trade) - Kevin Love
    14. Sydeffect- Blake Griffin
    15. torque (via trade) - Rajon Rondo
    16. Jmcballer88 - LaMarcus Aldridge
    17. Showtizzle2642 - Danny Granger
    18. AFS - Rudy Gay
    19. da_juice - Kevin Martin
    20. VBG - Zach Randolph
    21. fadeaway - Pau Gasol
    22. Ubigman - Russell Westbrook
    23. RocketsRed14 - Gerald Wallace
    24. RowdyRicky - Marc Gasol

    SECOND ROUND
    1. Ubigman (via trade) - Chris Bosh
    2. RocketsRed14 - Andrew Bogut
    3. Ubigman - Al Horford
    4. fadeaway - Josh Smith
    5. dharocks - Steve Nash
    6. da_juice - Andre Iguodala
    7. AFS - Al Jefferson
    8. Showtizzle2642 - Andrew Bynum
    9. Jmcballer88 - Manu Ginobili
    10. Spooner (via trade) - Brook Lopez
    11. Sydeffect - Tyson Chandler
    12. RedNation (Via Trade)- Paul Pierce
    13. wekko368 - Nene
    14. hoopstar - Luol Deng
    15. YourSecretLover - Joakim Noah
    16. RedNation - Tim Duncan
    17. greenhippos (via trade) - Monta Ellis
    18. freeze00up - David West
    19. ICanDunkOnYao (via trade) - Tyreke Evans
    20. Bob MonkeySon - Luis Scola
    21. torque (via trade) - Joe Johnson
    22. BleedRocketRed - John Wall
    23. wekko368 - Stephen Curry
    24. VBG - Eric Gordon

    THIRD ROUND
    1. VBG - Lamar Odom
    2. greenhippos (via trade) - Tony Parker
    3. YourSecretLover (via trade) - Serge Ibaka
    4. thething (via trade) - Paul Milsap
    5. Bob MonkeySon - Roy Hibbert
    6. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Ray Allen
    7. freeze00up - JaVale McGee
    8. arjun (via trade) - David Lee
    9. greenhippos (via trade) - JJ Hickson
    10. BleedRocketRed (via trade) - Wesley Matthews
    11. hoopstar - Marcin Gortat
    12. wekko368 - Jason Richardson
    13. ICanDunkOnYao (via trade) - Chauncey Billups
    14. Sydeffect - James Harden
    15. arjun (via trade) - Stephen Jackson
    16. Jmcballer88 - Kyle Lowry
    17. Showtizzle2642 - Carl Landry
    18. AFS - Raymond Felton
    19. da_juice - Elton Brand
    20. VBG - Jason Kidd
    21. fadeaway - Carlos Boozer
    22. arjun (via trade) - Jrue Holiday
    23. thething (via trade) - Jason Terry
    24. Torque (via trade) - Emeka Okafor

    FOURTH ROUND
    1. RowdyRicky - Wilson Chandler
    2. thething (via trade) - Tayshaun Prince
    3. RedNation (via trade) - O.J. Mayo
    4. BleedRocketRed (via trade) - Marcus Camby
    5. VBG - Caron Butler
    6. da_juice - Kendrick Perkins
    7. AFS - Anderson Varejão
    8. Showtizzle2642 - Landry Fields
    9. Jmcballer88 - DeAndre Jordan
    10. torque (via trade) - Andrea Bargnani
    11. Sydeffect - Dorrell Wright
    12. Torque - Danilo Gallinari
    13. RocketsRed14 (via trade) - DeMarcus Cousins
    14. hoopstar - Ty Lawson
    15. fadeaway (via trade) - DeMar DeRozan
    16. arjun (via trade) - Shawn Marion
    17. thething - Chris Kaman
    18. freeze00up - Andrei Kirilenko
    19. RocketsRed14 (via trade) - Jamal Crawford
    20. Bob MonkeySon - Mike Conley
    21. thething (via trade) - Devin Harris
    22. BleedRocketRed - Derrick Williams
    23. greenhippos (via trade) - Channing Frye
    24. VBG (via trade) - Nicolas Batum

    FIFTH ROUND
    1. dharocks - J.R. Smith
    2. ICanDunkOnYao - Thaddeus Young
    3. fadeaway (via trade) - Chuck Hayes
    4. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Goran Dragic
    5. BobMonkeySon - Richard Jefferson
    6. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Darren Collison
    7. freeze00up - Andre Miller
    8. RowdyRicky (via trade) - Greg Monroe
    9. RedNation - Samuel Dalembert
    10. YourSecretLover - Arron Afflalo
    11. hoopstar - Metta World Peace
    12. wekko368 - Jameer Nelson
    13. RocketsRed14 (via trade) - Marcus Thornton
    14. Sydeffect - Rodney Stuckey
    15. greenhippos (via trade) - Andray Blatche
    16. Jmcballer88 - Michael "I Smoke Bud" Beasley
    17. Showtizzle2642 - SKIPPED
    18. AFS - Nick Young
    19. da_juice - SKIPPED
    20. YourSecretLover (via trade) - Kyrie Irving
    21. fadeaway - Brandon Jennings
    22. Ubigman - Antawn Jamison
    23. thething (via trade) - Jeff Green
    24. RowdyRicky - Grant Hill

    SIXTH ROUND
    1. RowdyRicky - Brendan Haywood
    2. RocketsRed14
    3. Ubigman
    4. Fadeaway
    5. VBG
    6. da_juice
    7. AFS
    8. Showtizzle2642
    9. Jmcballer88
    10. greenhippos
    11. Sydeffect
    12. torque
    13. ICanDunkOnYao (via trade)
    14. hoopstar
    15. dharocks (via trade)
    16. torque (via trade)
    17. thething
    18. freeze00up
    19. greenhippos (via trade)
    20. Bob MonkeySon
    21. greenhippos (via trade)
    22. dharocks (via trade)
    23. wekko368 (via trade)
    24. dharocks

    FUTURE TRADES:
    1) RocketsRed14 owns thething's 7th round selection
    2) Ubigman owns RowdyRicky's 7th round selection
    3) torque owns RedNation's 7th round selection
    4) Spooner owns torque and greenhippos' 7th round selections
    5) BleedRocketRed owns fadeaway's 8th round selection
    6) dharocks owns VBG's 8th round selection
    7) YourSecretLover owns dharocks' 8th round selection
    8) arjun owns thething's 8th round selection
    9) Spooner owns arjun's 8th round selection
    10) ICanDunkOnYao owns greenhippos' 8th round selection
    11) RedNation owns ICanDunkonYao and torque's 8th round selections
     
  17. Ricksmith

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    My final team, after a good amount of pick piling.

    PG: Collison/Dragic
    SG: Allen/Dragic
    SF: Chandler/Hill
    PF: Monroe/ Hill/Haywood
    C: Gasol/Haywood
     
  18. thething

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    Smart pick. I would have taken him at 17 for sure if available. Really good defensive center. Better than Dalembert IMO.
     
  19. arjun

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    is that ray allen or tony allen?
     
  20. wekko368

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    Actually, i made a mistake with Harris's numbers. I only listed his stats for Utah. Factoring in his NJ performance, his AST% goes to 38, better than Jameer.

    But his 3pt shooting drops to 32.3%. That's pretty bad. And both Harris and Jameer had a 1.7% steal % so I'm not so sure that Devin Harris is a better on-the-ball defender.

    My argument for Jameer is that his style is similar to Devin Harris, except he's a much better shooter. That's why I think he's better.
     

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