All NBA Draft Part 4 FIRST ROUND Pool C

.....and you didn't fix my lineup....



PG Rajon Rondo/Brandon Jennings
SG Ray Allen/Chase Budinger
SF Josh Smith/Wilson Chandler
Pf Blake Griffin
C Amare Stoudemire/Omer Asik

 

Honestly, I wanted Tyreke off the bench playing the Manu role but whatever.

I'm ready for the Dwight backlash but honestly I don't see how my team isn't the best here.

Interior defense is what matters and we have it.
Perimeter shooting we have.
Interior offense we have.
Off the bench we have speed and athleticism.

Gregg Popovich was amazing in finding a place for a shoot first PG (Tony Parker) and should be able to use Tyreke well. Also the Spurs D with just Duncan was elite. My team has Duncan AND Dwight.

 

I am curious as to how Spooner's team would beat mine. Just curious.

 

These are all the reasons your team should win correct?
You have manu (35%) and wright (37%) he has allen (44%) and smith (33%). I think him having ray allen may give him a slight advantage there. (You can make your rondo argument but the truth is, tyreke can't shoot from the outside either)

Interior defense you have a point but Griffin is a pretty good defender. Also, it's not like Dwight is a monster on the offensive end. He can't score from anywhere unless it's right next to the basket. Interior offense: Dwight and KG vs. Amare and Griffin. Dwight I already mentioned above and KG can get you some post offense every game. However, Amare and Griffin duo better offensively.
YOur bench: Lawson/lee/andersen/anderson vs. Jennings/chandler/buddinger/asik. You say your team has speed and athleticism off the bench, which is true. Spooner's team also has that.

To summarize (just the points you brought up)
Interior defense:Edge to VBG
Perimiter shooting: Edge to Spooner
interior offense:Edge to spooner
Bench speed+athleticism:Tie

 

I like his depth better.

 

He did you a favor...J. Smith can't play the 3, thats why he was told to stop shooting and play as a PF.

 

Blake Griffin is a pretty good defender?

Are we watching the same sport? Pretty much everyone agrees Griffin is a below average defender.

Dwight, a 60% shooter suddenly can't score in the post? The guy who averages over 20/10 and scored 30 points in the first half of a playoff game.

Wow.

 

Well, I guess Dwight hate had to come her eventually. I mean, Blake and Amar'e are obviously as good at defense as Garnett and Dwight.

And Ginobili is so much better than Ray Allen now. It's not even close anymore.

Josh Smith is not in the same stratosphere as Ginobili, Wright or Ray Ray as a 3 point shooter.

 

Dwight can shoot in the post. Just not farther than 5 ft from the basket. When you see 60 percent, that number is from dunks and putbacks.
Yes griffin is a decent defender and he can rebound.
Either way, I said your interior d is better didn't I?

 

The performance is based on this season. This season, smith shot 33 percent from three. Ginobili is better than ray overall, but you said outside shooting, which ray is better at clearly.

As I said, blake and amare are worse at defense than your defenders.

 

Ok. Lets ignore situation and the fact that no one ever guarded Josh Smith's 3s and just look at numbers

 

Its funny because I like Sydeffects' team better than Spooners but Westbrook is auto loss on CF.

 

Hahaha. :grin: because manu and wright were draining threes over two guys all the time. You don't think jsmoove hit any contested threes? More importantly, you don't think he will get any open threes on this team? He has a great passing pg in rondo to set him up and allen will take a little bit of that 3 point shooting pressure on him.

 

Ok, I just can't agree that Josh Smith is a similar outside shooter to Dorrell Wright or Manu Ginobili. I just find that ludicrous.

And Dwight not being able to dominate in the post is funny. Especially since the other team has Blake and Amar'e in the post.

Just a quote about Blake Griffin's defense -

Blake Griffin is not a good defensive player

 

Okay. The random quote says his defense is worse. Ill go with it and once again: your interior defense is better than spooners. I said that in my original post.

 

No one is claiming they are equal defensively. However, Griffin and Stat are miles ahead offensively. That really isn't up for debate. Have you checked Amare/Dwight head to head match-ups? From starting at center in New York all the way back to his Pheonix days playing alongside defensive monster Channing Frye, Amare won 7 matchups, tied 2 matchups in total points while only losing 4 against Dwight. VBG, I never said Griffin was a solid defender but you would be a fool to argue Garnett is half the player BG is at this point. In any case, with the leagues best defensive point guard, a solid defender in Chandler, Griffin splitting time at the 4 with Smith, and Asik off the bench, I am not too worried about defense. Further, you would be hard pressed to tell me your team is any more adept at rebounding than mine.

Couldn't I make the same argument about Rondo being far ahead of Tyreke/Lawson? I could say the same about Josh Smith in relation to Wright just as easily. The difference is, your point guards are further in skill from Rondo than Allen is to Manu. No, I don't think a score first guard on a .400 percentage is anything to be afraid of.

No but Chandler and Bud are solid enough shooters. Not many teams will have a center with the midrange ability Amare has either. Bottom line is, we need to stop treating Smith as if he couldn't hit an outside shot to save his life. (Tryeke Evans or Dwight Howard.) Were you aware that he trained before the season with shooting coach Idan Ravin? Smith took more three's this year than he has ever before. He hit a third of them. If you stack his percentages and number of threes attempted, you would be surprised at some of the players his shooting numbers mirror.

 

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Garnett isn't half the player BG is? That's why pretty much every analyst ranks Garnett in the top 20 NBA players? Garnett is still one of the best defensive players. Garnett and Dwight will completely shut down any big man combo or pick and roll.

Oh I forgot. Analysts are dumb. Perception is all that matters