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All Aboard the Luke Walton Bandwagon: check in here if you agree

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JayZ750, Apr 20, 2016.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Woah that's some inception type posting. You quoted your own replay and then posted your reply again.
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    Bad reasons for wanting Luke Walton: did well as interim coach when Kerr was out; to bring in GSW's system.

    Good reasons for wanting Luke Walton: Performed well as top assistant and looks capable of going to the next level.

    I'm fine with the Rockets considering him if its for good reasons. But, it's fools' gold to see what he did in his interim stint as evidence of his ability. He was just caretaking what Kerr had built. Championship-caliber teams can run themselves for awhile once they're built when a coach or even a franchise player gets knocked out.
     
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    Exactly.....lee was injured. Lee would have started if he wasn't hurt
     
  4. Garner

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    you know why they wouldn't be concerned one bit....? because they still have Steph Curry.
     
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    What makes you think Walton can only coach one style of play?
     
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    If Walton comes - do we go to the Triangle?
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Yeah we probably have the worst passing skilled roster in the NBA after Harden and Dmo.

    You need bigs that can pass for the triangle and frankly for the ball the Warriors and Spurs are playing.
     
  8. JayZ750

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    I just want to say this "they've got the best player in the game so who cares who coaching" type argument is lame.

    The idea that anybody could have been plugged right in as a coach and gone 39-4, and 24-0 to open the seasons, is lame.

    I said in another thread, 5... 10 years ago I would have agreed. But I'm older now. I've seen enough, in my field, in sports, in other industries. Leadership matters. Culture matters. Coaching matters.

    Yes, the GSW had a lot of that locked in coming into this season. But, yes, Walton was part of creating that, and yes, even with it locked in, someone still had to be piloting the ship. It's a pretty random analogy, but when the captain wasn't piloting the Titanic (the best, most indestructible ship ever built), the next in line f'ed it up. Walton clearly and obviously did not do that.

    I don't think the triangle is the be all, end all. And the Warriors don't run the triangle, they run a hybrid offense.

    And the Rockets are still decent on offense as disjointed as they look at times.

    That said, if the Rockets don't have the players in place to run a competent, top 5 efficiency offense... they need to get better players, regardless of who is coaching the team. Which is true.

    I just can't comprehend the idea that we should hire a coach who will implement a very simple, PnR and ISO offense, because the players apparently can't run anything else. It makes no sense to me. Ship out those f'ing players. Make them run something else.

    And again, it doesn't have to be a purely motion based thing. Want an offense with a lot of PnR, post-play, whatever, fine. But you have to have motion off of that. You can't just pass to Dwight, Harden and stand around, and then try a 1/2 pick and roll with Beverley that doesn't work and call it a day.
     
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    Are you under the impression that Ariza shoots many late second 3 pointers? Or that shooting late 3 point shots is a problem for the Rockets?

    If so then you need to check reality. Ariza attempted a grand total of 25 3pt shots with 4 or less seconds on the shot clock. Something that happens once every 3 or so games is an issue?

    Beverley actually attempted more late 3 pt shots (35 attempts) but he shot an amazing 45.7% on those attempts.

    Even Harden attempted less than 1 late 3 pointer per game (0.8 attempts) and he also shot them well at 37.9%.

    Overall, the entire team only attempted 2.6 late 3 pointers per game and Harden and Beverley took half of those and shot very well.

    Shooting 3 pointers late in the shot clock isn't a problem for the Rockets. They have enough issues that are real without inventing things that don't exist.
     
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    Lol man you guys are so funny. Discipline, play calling, emphasis on ball movement is great and all. But you need the players! Gentry was their best assistant before he left, how'd that work out for him in NO w/ no talent?
     
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    I could've told you around last year that Gentry would be a bad hire for the Pelicans. I would have instead hired Walton at the time.
     
  12. Louka

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    luke walton is trash... ill be quoting this post next season
     
  13. shakes05

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    All that Kerr did differently than Mark Jackson was to start Green over David Lee (David Lee was hurt at the beginning of the season and it was a blessing in disguise) and brought Iguodala off the bench to give them more fire-power for their reserves...at the end of the day, it was Mark Jackson's system that was implemented and give credit where it's due to the players, Curry, Thompson, and Green put in the work to become great players! I'll give Kerr his credit due if he can get past the Clippers and Spurs in a 7 game series. They cake walk through the playoffs last year and they're cake-walking again through us...
     
  14. JayZ750

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    This completely overlooks a ton of other stuff he did. He installed a whole new offense for example. (i've already provided a lot of links on this).

    it's ok to think something without doing any research on it. but i'm going to call you out for being wrong.

    go for it!

    This has already been addressed in this thread
     
  15. photojoe

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    Of course they wouldn't. With how stacked their team is, I could probably take over as coach and they wouldn't be concerned one bit.
     
  16. TheFreak

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    Fine. Let's focus on the statement "the coaching difference is bigger than the talent difference", since that was what prompted my response.

    GSW was 32 games better than the Rockets this year. If, as you say, "the coaching difference is bigger than the talent difference", then of the 32 game difference between the two teams, AT LEAST 17 of those games would have to be due to coaching alone, depending upon how much more of a difference in performance you attribute to coaching over talent. If we assume it's a close race, then we get 17 games. From the tone of your statement however, it is my opinion that you believe the coaching difference to be SIGNIFICANTLY more than that of the talent difference.

    It therefore follows that in your opinion, this 41-41 team would be, AT A MINIMUM, 58-24 with Steve Kerr coaching them instead of McHale/JBB. That's at a minimum. That would put them ABOVE last year's 56 win, 2-seed in the West team, a team that most people now think weren't even good enough to be the 2-seed at the time.

    Am I accurate in describing your position?
     
  17. Aruba77

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    Luke does not have a bandwagon, a temporary ice cream truck, maybe
     

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