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Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by m_cable, Jun 12, 2006.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    m_cable, I thought I was leading this "Draft Ronnie Brewer" bandwagon? ;)
    Of course you KNOW I am on it.
     
  2. m_cable

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    Think outside the box man. How does Shawn Marion guard PFs weighing 228. He does it with his strength and athleticsm. How does Boris Diaw guard Cs and PFs weighing 215. He uses his length and athleticism. With Brewer benching 185, 19 times (which is a very respectable score for a PF), and the length that gets constantly brought up, I think he has a chance to guard PFs.

    Check out what D'antoni said about Diaw in this article :

    This could be Brewer. We just need someone like D'Antoni who has the vision and creativity to try something a bit unorthodox but could be extremely rewarding. I'd like to think JVG can do something like that. He's run Tracy at the PF before in the playoffs. Maybe with another versatile weapon like Brewer, JVG will be willing to pursue that stuff again.
     
  3. redhova

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    I agree with this, I also would not pick Reddick with the 8th pick but in a situation where we get a shooter and add depth then I would do it with the 11th pick. I think that this is very possible, when Orlando traded for Darko, Fran Vasquez was no longer needed. However, if Morrison, Roy, Gay or any of the other top players are avaiable in the draft then all bets are off, with Orlando anyway.
     
  4. thumbs

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    No one seems to want to lead the Gay bandwagon. ;)
     
  5. m_cable

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    I'm so high on brewer right now, that I'm tempted to just stand pat at 8 and draft him. But I wouldn't be averse to seeing who the Magic wanted at 8, so that we can draft that person and make a deal. Like if Gay or Roy fell to us, both of which the Magic seem to be in love with, we might be able to get a steal.

    In this case, I'd like the idea of #8 + Juwan for #11 + Hedo. I'd take Hedo over Juwan straight up. We'd get a really nice forward to add to the rotation. He could be a great scorer off the bench backing up Tracy, or he can be that shooter at the PF that JVG is in favor of. Either way it'd be adding another talented player to the mix, which is something we desperately need.
     
  6. HotRocket

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    I think the best case situation for us would for one of the projected top 5 picks to drop to us. Then we could trade that guy for a lower pick, hopefully for NO's picks. Then we could pick up Brewer and possibly Williams (tho I think he will get snatched up early) or JJ.
     
  7. 523744

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    Im almost ready to leave the carney bandwagon, but when they say brewer has pg skills, does that mean hes an ok passer or this guy is a true playmaker with the great awarness and everything because i never really watched any of his games.
     
  8. WallofYao

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    I'm tottaly for Brewer.
     
  9. dream2franchise

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    Been on for a while..definately my favourite option at #8.

    Might add this in there from draftexpress guy, i asked about Brewer's PG potential...

    Q *Some of us Rockets fans are entertaining the thought of having Brewer
    > run with us as a point forward, and filling the other guard spot with
    > a shooter like Mike James. This would give us great height and
    > flexibility defensively.*

    >
    A *You think Brewer has what it takes to be an initiator?*
     
  10. dream2franchise

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    Sorry, the answer is...

    A. Yes. He has those kind of instincts. Quick learner too. Great fit for
    Houston.
     
  11. ClutchCityReturns

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    From his draftexpress profile...

     
  12. Joe Joe

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    I've been on the bandwagon for a while. He's the inverse of the average Rocket guard....He's got the body of a SG, the game of a PG, and he can defend.
     
  13. arif1127

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    below average shooter though, so how different is he really from the Rockets' current crop of guards?
     
  14. tiger0330

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    Great interview as well. As you might expect, he has been playing basketball since he was in first grade, coached by his dad, great attitude, sounds like the type of guy that will work as hard as Yao to get to the next level. Sounds real confident about his handle and defense. He is not a great shooter so the question is if you can't sign MJ would he be a good pick?

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1337
     
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  15. GTO

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    He has height, he can slash and he can defend.
     
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    Don'y know if this was already posted but here it is anyways, this guy seems to think we should really take Brewer, too:


    Houston, We have a solution
    Joshua John
    June 7, 2006

    Was Houston a bad team last year? No. Heck, with a “normal” amount of injuries these guys would have won 45-50 games. However, as your mommy might have told you, life is not fair. In fact, Houston led the league in most games missed. Let’s take a look at the roster and see what needs work:

    Point Guard
    Rockets fans are split whether or not Rafer Alston is championship-type point guard. I believe he is. He is obviously no Steve Nash or Jason Kidd but when you have Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming you don’t need too much star-power or salary, for that matter, at the point guard position. He is certainly an able playmaker and takes care of the ball. His flaw is perhaps inconsistency and shot-selection. These are things that can be improved so need to worry about that. Having a dependable backup is a bigger concern here. At 6-2 175 and 30 years of age, Rafer is a lightweight and starting to age. Ideally, the Rockets will acquire a nice-sized, young guard to play in a reserve role. David Wesley and Luther Head are not point guards. And I am just going to assume Sura is done.

    Shooting Guard
    This might be the hugest hole in the starting five. Luther Head is a great shooter but is undersized and has to learn to be craftier as a result. He is strictly a role player. Ditto for David Wesley. He should be used in the manner that Gary Payton is employed in order to maximize his remaining talent. Bogans is also a role player. He is a hard-nosed player and can also slip in as a small forward. Richie Frahm can shoot but that’s it. The Rockets NEED a long, athletic, versatile shooting guard badly. And they will most certainly address this this offseason.

    Small Forward
    Tracy McGrady. He just needs to stay healthy. He needs a decent backup that could give him 10-15mins. of downtime at a moments notice. Ryan Bowen has heart. That’s about it and a player option for this year that I’m praying he doesn’t use.

    Power Forward
    The Rockets have invested $12 million at the power forward slot. And it hasn’t been one an investor on Wall Street would brag about. Juwan Howard plays with heart and professionalism but is simply aging and not athletic enough to play in the “new NBA”. He should be used like the poor man’s McDyess he is. Stromile Swift is certainly the type to run the floor and throw down a powerful dunk. But he is also the type to miss a couple of weeks with “pink eye”. This makes me think how he cares about the team and improving his game. The Rockets need a power forward but one of these guys has to go first.

    Center
    Yao Ming. He also needs to stay healthy. Dikembe Mutumbo is still waging the finger. But the Rockets need to groom the next backup, preferably one quick enough to speed up the tempo of the game when Yao is on the bench.

    Guys the Rockets Should Resign:
    The most I offer to David Wesley is a two-year 4-5million dollar deal. If they could trade him and get a respectable player in return I am all for it. Keith Bogans gets a similar deal with the same stipulations. Richie Frahm’s contract should not even approach a million a year.

    Guys to Draft:
    With the 8th pick the Rockets select…
    1) Ronnie Brewer- at 6-7 217 pounds he has great skill, handle, anticipation, athleticism and character. Essentially, he could backup Alston, McGrady, and play shooting guard shooting guard in the course of one game. Did I mention he’s versatile? I would be irate if the Rockets pass up on this guy. The only knock I’ve heard is that he is not a great long range shooter. Reports have stated that he went 19-25 from the arc in a workout with the Rockets. Furthermore, he is the type of guy that will work devoutly on his game during the offseason. Guys like Jason Richardson, Gilbert Arenas, Bobby Simmons, etc. were not good shooters when they entered the league but they worked on it. Brewer will do the same. Brewer reminds me of Larry Hughes and Josh Howard.
    2) Rodney Carney- It appears McGrady has taken a liking to the Memphis product. Tracy McGrady's brother, Chance, was a teammate of Carney's at Memphis, and Carney has been working out with T-Mac and his personal trainer at McGrady's home in Houston. He can shoot and has tremendous athleticism but his handle and passing is shaky. At 6-7 205, he has the size to play either the 2 or 3. And if your star likes him, that can only help his status.
    3) Shelden Williams- He is a hard-working, dependable big guy. At 6-9 250, he can play power forward and sneak in at center once in a while. His shot-blocking and rebounding would definitely be an upgrade from Howard and Swift. However, his offense would not be.
    Say no to…
    Redick and Foye: Great players but undersized. Thanks but Houston has Wesley, Head, and Frahm.

    With the 32nd pick the Rockets select…
    1) Steve Novak- 6’10 forward with range. Mission accomplished. If he is still available, he is an answer to Van Gundy’s prayers.
    2) Bobby Brown- Point guard with good handle and shooting ability. He would make a solid backup.
    3) Darius Washington-Point guard with decent size, good shooting abilities, and quickness.
    4) Kevin Pittsnogle- 6-10 260. He is the poor man’s Brad Miller. Identical in size. Good passer and great range for a forward/center.

    Other Off-season Possibilities:
    The Rockets are armed with a $5.4 million midlevel exception and trade exceptions worth $4.2 million and $1.67 million. The Rockets will use some of midlevel to sign their own free agents. Guys like DeShawn Stevenson and Mike James are interested in Houston. If the Rockets draft Brewer or Carney and re-sign Bogans, Stevenson would not be needed. James may cost too much to be a reasonable solution. Drafting Brewer would make these two unnecessary since he can also play the point. Also GM Carroll Dawson may bring in Vassilis Spanoulis, the 6-4 190 Greek point guard selected in the second round in 2004. This would eat some of the MLE and further negate the need of James. If Wesley and Head were sent to Toronto for James (or something to that extent), then there would be enough space for James, Alston and Spanoulis. Howard is probably untradeable at this point in this career. Look for the Rockets to entertain offers for Stromile Swift who has trade value. He could thrive in places like Seattle, New Jersey, New Orleans, Golden State, Charlotte and Phoenix. Brian Cook, Mickael Pietrius, Melvin Ely and Udonis Haslem would all be the type of guys that would help Houston if Swift was sent packing.



    Don't know if I agree with that last sentence but a fairly good article, overall.
     
  17. hooroo

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    would definately be happy with a pietrus & biedrens for swift deal. pietrus might get too good an offer forthe rockets to match next season. biedrens would make a good long term forward centre/primary backup for yao with deke in his last year.
     
  18. dream2franchise

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    He echoes the feelings of alot of fans with the exception of draft choices (too many different opinions here) but his analysis of the roster was spot on.
     
  19. ClutchCityReturns

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    Why are people saying he is a below average shooter?

    46% overall and 34% from three are NOT below average, especially for a guy that handles the ball for his team and has to take contested shots against the shot clock.

    He may not be a sharpshooter but please quit knocking the guy's shot. At the very least his numbers should be considered well beyond acceptable. I mean, what would make people think he was a good shooter? 50% and 40%? Get real. The guy gives you way too much to knock him for 46/34%.
     
  20. Nero

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    Totally agree. I think people are simply regurgitating what they have heard the 'conventional wisdom' to be, without bothering to check the facts.

    He is, as a matter of fact, an arguably better shooter than Carney.

    Brewer is a no-brainer for us. The only problem is, the guy might actually shoot up past us into the top 7.
     

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