Yep, I find it funny when people tell funny jokes, racially based or not. I guess I am well on my way to becoming a racist murderer. Your problem seems to be, in my view, that you cannot seperate what psychotic people do from what normal people do. It is very different to tell, or even just to laugh at, a joke about race, than it is to hang someone. This is not just a difference of degree. Could the motivation be the same, maybe. The motivation could also be the same between Martin Luther King Jr. and Malik Shabazz. However, one person was non-violently protesting the treatment that his people received, while the other advocated dragging people from their cars and beating them because they were white. Now, regarding some of your individual points. Allow me to use an analogy. Christianity was used to justify the Inquisition, a horrible thing. This does not make Christianity bad. It makes the Inquisitors bad. Race related speech was used to justify lynchings, a horrible thing. This does not make anything that people say involving race (eg. a joke) bad, it makes KKK idiots who hang people bad. re: Rodney King If you want to make it all about race, that is your perogative. I did not hear the cops talking on the tapes (although it was many years ago) soI do not know their motivations. I think it is possible that Rodney King was beaten because he was endangering the lives of innocent people and then took a swing at the cops. While I agree that it is wrong to beat a suspect in custody, I am not at all certain that it was racism that motivated it. When I say it was not institutionalized racism, I mean that there is not a rule anywhere that says it is okay to beat a man because of his race. IIRC, (some of?) the cops where punished following the incident. re: where racism is good When a comedian makes a joke at the expense of a race, and the joke is funny, that is good. It can also be called racism. That is my example of racism being good, the very same thing that started this thread. I would say that it is not really racism though. To me, racism is a belief that another race of people is inherently inferior to one's own. I can make a joke without believing this, therefor not racism. That is to broad for me. You are making a huge leap that everyone who tells racial jokes will become a racist psycho. I give people a little more credit than that. There are people who drink. There are drunks who beat their wives. Should we outlaw alchohol? There are people who drive. There are people who kill pedestrians in the crosswalk. Should we outlaw cars? My contention is only that there is a big difference between a joke and actually hurting someone. Of course a joke can hurt someone's feelings, but they need to put it behind them, as I have put it behind me when you have resorted to name-calling now on two occasions. What are you, six ?
HayesStreet, Rodney King was not hancuffed face down on the street. He wouldnt lay down and let the officers handcuff him and that was the reason that they continued to hit him. Everytime they would tell him to lay down he would try to get back up. The reason that they cops were cleared was because of the tape. It was easy to look at the tape and assume that they were just beating his ass. He was strung out on drugs and unfortunately he was acting stupid and got his ass beat. I will tell you what was distugusting was the truck driver that got pulled out of his truck and beat senselessly and a brick thrown at his head during the riots after the Rodney King verdict. But I guess he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yeah, the innocent truckdriver Reginald Denny was the real victim in the Rodney King mess. His entire ordeal was also caught on tape and the furor was about 1/1000th that of Rodney King's. The police were doing their job-- and a tough job it is -- and not always pretty. Rodney repeatedly resisted arrest. Wasn't he strung out on PCP or something? Denny was doing his job too-- driving a truck or trying to. Exactly who are the real criminals here?
There is something you guys are forgetting about the Rodney King case. What you all are leaving out is that there were 4 cops...FOUR FREAKING COPS! If he kept getting up that doesn't mean just keep beating the sh*t out of him, you subdue him because there are 4 of you there and could easily hold him down and cuff his hands and legs if needed. Don't say the police men were small either cause they were all about Rodney's size and there were 4 of them and don't use the excuse that the drugs gave Rodney extra strength and drive because there are still 4 cops there and that's more than enough to keep him down. I've seen many police chases on television where a criminal, some many times bigger and stronger than King, runs from the police and keeps trying to run even after they catch him but when two policemen or more get there one holds him down while the other cuffs the suspect. Yes it's that simple, it doesn't take 10 swings each from 4 nightclubs to arrest or subdue one offender.
Lil Pun, You are right, those cops should have to wrestle some drug crazed guy to the ground no knowing what kinds of nasty ass diseases that he has. And I believe everything I see on TV also. I'm sure those guys arent on their best behavior so that they make being a police officer nice and pretty. And I guess it makes what happened to Reginald Denny all better too.
Master Moron, I'll come back when I have more time to waste and handle your and Hydra's points one by one, but a couple of things I just can't let pass lest someone else read your FICTION and believe its the truth. 1. Rodney King was NOT ON PCP. It was verified that there were no drugs in his system. He was drunk. 2. Where do you get off on the 'diseases' kick? Yes, it is expected that cops will subdue a suspect in a crime without beating his head in. 3. Four cops struck King FIFTY SIX TIMES, with METAL BATONS. The majority of those hits came as he lay prone on the ground. 4. Two of the first FIVE cops on the scene TESTIFIED that the senior cop on the scene was 'out of control' and had used 'extreme violence in excess of department regulations.' If you don't believe the videotape PLUS the word of two of your sainted cops, then you are just refusing to accept the truth. 5. No one has said anywhere that what happened to Reginald Denny was acceptable. You can both condemn the men who attacked Denny and the men who attacked King. The fact that you vehemently abhor the racism in the Denny case, and simply deny the racism in the King case puts you in the David Duke 'whites rights' camp that I would neither want to be associated with nor do I think should be tolerated. More to follow on humanity 101....
Nope, but it does make you a racist. Mainly because you acknowledge that it IS racist to make racist jokes, but you do it anyway because you think its FUNNY. It is different in that you are laughing in one example and hanging someone in the other. It is the same in that both are cases of racism. As I explicitly pointed out in my last post, when you support an environment that degrades other humans based soley on racial attributes, you create the environment that spawns those unstable enough to actually take those psychotic actions. You create the fear and the paranoia and the disdain of other races, and hence you take part in the creation of these crimes, to say nothing of the more subtle effects of racism that you reenforce. I would let you use an analogy but it has to make sense. Since none of these are comparable, let me help you. Religion can be good or bad. Inquisitions are always bad. Inquisitions in the name of religion are always bad. Sex can be good or bad. Sex during a rape is always bad. Rape is always bad. Discussions of racial differences can be good or bad. Dehumanization based on race is always bad. Racism is always bad. FIFTY SIX BLOWS TO THE HEAD WITH METAL BATONS? No way. Well, one of the cops referred to the encounter directly before he pulled King over as "like Gorillas in the Mist." His words, look it up. He actually was stupid enough to enter that in his police computer. When asked in court about it he revealed he was referring to a domestic incident involving two black adults. "On cross-examination, Terry White questioned Powell about his "Gorillas in the Mist" message: White: Now this call that involved these African Americans, was it in a jungle? Powell: In a what? White: A jungle? Powell: No. White: Was it at the zoo? Powell: No. White: Were there any gorillas around? Powell: I didn't see any." (court transcript) Powell also reported the incident on his computer-- Powell typed, "I haven't beaten anyone this bad in a long time." Now what do you think about their motivation? Can you connect the dots or are you refusing to do so? Wow. So you come out and say it. Unbelieveable. To all of you out there who want to hide your head in the sand and say "Well its not like it used to be..." here you are. One of your posting breathren shouting out for you to see..."Racism can be good." I'll admit you've got balls....for brains. And really you laugh because you believe it. And that is sad. And if for a moment we put that aside and ASSUMED (erroneously) that you didn't believe it, you completely ignore the fact that your rhetoric can have an effect, even an unintended one on the people around you. For example, lets take the very first incident this thread talks about. Lets say I'm a big fan of Ali and so I take my 8 year old son with me to this dinner/speech (whatever). Now my son knows I like Ali cause I've been talking about this thing since I first got tickets. My son's never thought about differences between Jews and Gentiles cause I don't draw distinctions at home. They don't in school. Now he hears Ali tell this joke. Jews are cheap. Now its in the back of his mind. Jews are cheap. Yeah, everybody laughed. What did they laugh at? They laughed at Jews. They laughed at the fact that we all know you can't trust a Jew cause they are cheap. Different than us. Cheaper than us. Now there is a red flag in the back of my son's mind. Jews are different. We laugh at Jews. We are not like Jews. We are generous and Jews are cheap. And on and on... Do you get it? And this is a fairly innocuous example. It can get worse with the more base ethnic jokes: Mexicans are thieves. Polish are stupid. Irish are drunks. Italians are greasy. Blacks are lazy. Japanese have buck teeth and wear thick glasses. All of these are misnomers, incorrect stereotypes that build walls between us, unnecessarily. And for what? A chuckle? Do you still think its FUNNY? You are simply wrong. Study after study shows how our rhetoric influences those around us, and not just children, but adults as well. Drinking is not always bad. Racism is always bad. Driving is not always bad. Racism is always bad. Using an analogy is not always bad. YOUR analogies are always bad. And your contention is wrong. I've given you examples that you can't or won't refute. Study after study proves I'm right and you are either misguided or maliciously stupid. Except I wasn't joking. Your views are unacceptable. They are based the ignorant believe that words cannot hurt people. Sticks and stones and all that jazz. You are wrong. Words can hurt. Words can influence. Words can have unintentional effects. Racism is never good. Racism is ALWAYS WRONG. Change your ways and be a part of the solution so that we can live in a world without Rodney Kings OR Reginald Dennys.
Actually, I said (and you quoted it) that I did not "acknowledge that it IS racist to make racist jokes". I said that I did NOT consider jokes based on race racism. You asked a loaded question. I provided the answer you wanted, and then explained that it was not racism in my opinion, just comedy. A comedians job is to make people laugh, not to check all of his jokes with the PC police before taking the stage. Now you can believe that jokes create an environment that promotes racism, that they have a dehumanizing effect on people. You can mention that studies exist that support this (without providing a link or anything). I chose to judge people on their actions. I do not consider Chris Rock a racist. He makes several jokes about Crackers, and others that are chauvinistic. When I listen to him talking though, I do not get the impression that he hates white people or women. If some idiot wants to listen to Chris Rock and then turn around and hurt these groups, you want to blame Chris Rock. I choose instead to blame the person doing the actual hurting. I did not blame the Menendez parents when Lyle and Eric shot them. It is called accountability. We are not responsible for the actions that other people take. If people would just take responsibility for their own actions, a lot more problems would go away than would be solved by getting rid of race jokes. Just like Osama bin Laden passes the buck on to the United States for all of the ME's problems, the PC crowd likes to pass the buck from those who are really hurting people to those who laugh at Chris Rock's jokes.
Originally posted by Master Baiter: You are right, those cops should have to wrestle some drug crazed guy to the ground no knowing what kinds of nasty ass diseases that he has. With this statement you sound like a 4th grader who's afraid of cooties. So you are saying whenever a suspect is believed to be on drugs that police officers have the right to beat them senseless because they're not sure what type of diseases they may have? Well maybe you haven't heard but diseases show no preference when it comes to people, they don't care if you're a crackhead or a lawyer, black or white, diseases can and do infect every type of person there is. Grow up or get educated, either one please! Originally posted by Master Baiter: And I believe everything I see on TV also. Are you implying that the tape was doctored? If so you're the first and only person I know who has come up with this "conspiracy theory". Originally posted by Master Baiter: I'm sure those guys arent on their best behavior so that they make being a police officer nice and pretty. They're behavior was clearly out of line, as I said before it does't take 4 men to take one down. I know a police officer's job isn't supposed to be pretty all the time but it's never supposed to go to full blown ugly like that, their force was clearly excessive. Originally posted by Master Baiter: And I guess it makes what happened to Reginald Denny all better too. I never said what happened to Mr. Denny was a good thing or that King's beating justified Denny's, in fact it was just as awful as what happened to King and I'm sure nobody would argue with that.
What happened to Denny was much worse than what happened to King. Denny's assault was clearly racially motivated. Was King's? Would they have beat RM95 in the same fashion if he had resisted and struggled?
A comedian shouldn't have to check their jokes with anyone. If they are any good they should be able to make people laugh without trading on racial or gender stereotypes, the so-called 'cheap laugh.' Interesting. So I guess we should let Charles Manson out of jail? After all, he didn't actually kill Sharon Tate. In fact, he wasn't even there. And I guess Osama should be let off? After all, he didn't actually blow up the WTC. I guess we should let the Sheik we convicted of leading the first WTC attack in '93 out? After all, he wasn't actually part of the attack. The guy is blind for crying out loud. The only thing he contributed were words... Uh, yeah. Yet another great example. The Menendez brothers shot their parents for money. How is that relevant? I wonder, do ANY of your heads have a brain? Are you really so foolish as to believe that we are all completely independent actors? Were you BORN with a sense of right and wrong? Uh, no you weren't. We are all influenced by our experiences. The more racist sentiment you experience, the more likely you are to co-op those opinions. Apparently you are a case on point.
Lil Pun, There is your TV reference. I never the video was doctored and dont think it was. I am not afraid of cooties but to think that a good portion of drug addicts do not have diseases is idiotic and I personally wouldnt mess with it myself. The police do not have to put themselves at risk because idiots want to resist. The guy continued to get up time after time after time. As soon as his dumbass laid down, they stopped hitting him. Rewatch the tape, I gurantee it. It was not pretty and it was not nice. I dont think it was excessive. If it had been a drunk upperclass white guy that was out of control and wouldnt do what he was told and they beat his ass until he did what they told him too, I would think the exact same thing. HayesStreet, You feel you have to resort to name calling everytime you post. I have posted my opinions logically and without acting like a child. Just because you do not care for my opinion does not make me a moron. I never said he was on PCP. I do not have a perfect memory but I am pretty sure he was on drugs. Your arguement about comedy and racism is so far out in left field that it doesnt even deserve a response. Why I am giving one is beyond me. To compare Chris Rock and Charles Manson is laughable as are most of your responses. Get a sense of freaking humor. The whole concept of this thread was how white people are treated differently when it comes to race relations. Chris Rock can make the joke while a white comedian cannot. Last night we were watching the Bernie Mac show and it had a prime example. Bernie Mac was going to take his sisters kids in while his sister went to drug rehab. He didnt want the kids going to foster homes because they may go to a white family. He couldnt have a white family raising those kids, they might end up talking all proper. It was funny. Hypothetically if we had the Whitey White Show and Mr. Whitey said he was taking in his sisters kids because he didnt want them going to a black family and they might end up speaking ebonics, then holy crap, we cant have that. Why cant a black family raise a white kid? Jessie Jackson would have his panties in a bunch and that show wouild have to be cancelled. That is what we have been discussing. Not how Chris Rock should be locked away for killing white people because he made a cracker joke. I was about to hit submit until I saw somemore of your verbal diahrrea. Life experiences do mold us but just because you are around racism does not make you a racist. My family is racist. They dont go lynching people but they are racist and I do not consider myself racist. I have prejudices and I totally agree with the statement that Kim made earlier about how everyone is prejudice to an extent. My dad beat up every woman that he ever lived with. I have never laid a hand on a woman. If I had, then I would be responsible for my actions. Not my dad. To blame other people for your actions is a cop out. You hear the sob stories all the time how mommy didnt breast feed their kid so it scarred them for life and that is the reason they stabbed someone 50 times. Give me a break. You are accountable for your own actions and to say otherwise is ridiculous.
You are incorrect. King was not on drugs. Look it up before you sling accusations like that. You are basing your argument on it and it is wrong. And YES THERE ARE RULES about how police can respond, even in risky situations. They cannot use deadly force except in specific situations. They cannot use choke holds, and they cannot beat someone who is down on the ground. The FACTS show it was excessive. King was hit fifty six times. Two of the police on the scene TESTIFIED (as I posted earlier and you ignored - convienently) that it WAS EXCESSIVE. That he was not a threat once he was down and the beating started. They testified that he was not getting back up after the beating started (although if you were getting the beating, it would be understandable to try and get up and away if the beating continued even after you were down). I've also pointed to the senior cop's own words that point out he was racially motivated. No, your opinions make you a moron, not my opinion of your opinions. You are wrong. You are wrong. He was not on drugs. W-R-O-N-G. Prove me incorrect if you can. Well you obviously didn't understand the Charles Manson reference. If you believe in a strict rugged individualist view of the world, and you think only the person who takes the action is responsible, and no one else, then Charles Manson, who didn't take active part in the Tate murder, should not be in jail. You need to look at the implications of your opinions, instead of hiding behind singular examples that you feel prove your point. White people are treated differently because they are the power holders in our society. Power dynamics DO make a difference in effect of rhetoric. For example: A student tells a teacher he/she is stupid. Does this affect the teacher? Probably not since the teacher holds the power in the relationship and is (probably) secure in their knowledge of the subject vs the student. If, however, a teacher tells a student that they are stupid, can this be detrimental to the student's drive and feelings of self worth? Absolutely. Similarly, if a white person says something racist it further beats down an already oppressed subject. When a minority does it they are seeking to gain some balance in the power dynamics that are overwhelmingly arrayed against them. Both can be racist, and so both are misguided and wrong, but the effect of one is worse than the other. Just as the effect of a racist joke is different than a racist motivated lynching. They are both racist, both wrong, but have different levels of severity. True, everyone does have their prejudices. In fact it might be natural to have feelings of racial prejudice. But MOST of us are trying to EVOLVE beyond the fear, hate, and paranoia of racism. Join us or become extinct. The choice is yours. And its interesting that you say both that you are not a racist, and that you are prejudiced (in relation to race), since those are diametrically opposed to each other. It is also an interesting intersection on my point of external influences, such as your family. They are racist. You are racist. Hmmmm....looks like you proved me right. Modern psychology would disagree with you. It doesn't absolve him of responsibilty, it just means that there are other factors that ultimately contributed to his actions. Did you ever wonder WHY your Dad beat the women in his life? Was it FUNNY? I suspect there are deeper reasons if you look. If those can be identified, then maybe other men, who cannot deal with gender relations as you can, can be shown that violence is not the path to go down. I applaud your ability to break the cycle of violence. Maybe you're not a lost cause after all. Nope, to say we are all alone and there are no external variables in how people respond to situations is ridiculous. That doesn't mean that the modern "-isms culture" that you refer to doesn't go to far by removing ALL responsibility from the actors. But by the same token to place all the responsibility on that actor ignores the cultural, racial, and class influences on our lives. And your statements are not as innocent as you pretend. You ARE saying you are not offended by Chris Rock, so that is tolerance you are showing. That is good. Doesn't mean what Rock is saying isn't racist. You should be applauded for that. But you are also clearly defending the King beating, which is not tolerance, its racist. You are saying things like he was a druggie, which is untrue, but certainly a racist stereotype projected on blacks. You are saying the cops risked catching some disease, like they might have turned black or something as they beat King's head in. That is certainly a racist stereotype conveyed on minorities (they are diseased). You are saying that it is ok to be racists 'cause black people are too. That is ridiculous. That is unacceptable. And the worst part is you are blind to your own racism. Finally, even if you believe that I am PROBABLY WRONG, why would you risk (a) hurting someone through demeaning speech (b) contributing to an already racist environment and/or (c) contributing to someone less stable taking a racist action since they feel its acceptable by the positive reactions they see to racist rhetoric. WHY WHY WHY? For your AMUSEMENT? Is it worth it if there is a CHANCE that I'm right? Aren't you being terribly arrogant to put your HUMOR above other people's health and welfare? That is pretty pathetic, especially since I'm willing to bet that you're easily amused...
HayesStreet, I never said he was on drugs and said that my memory is not perfect. You said he was drunk. Alcohol is a drug. I never said he was a druggie or that he had diseases, it was a hypothetical situation involving someone on drugs and cops. I was not placing this stereotype on him. You say that the police officer testified that the beating was excessive. The jury did not. I dont think it was. I guess excessive is relative. That doesnt make me a racist because I think that. Remember my child statement earlier. I can just see you stomping your feet while you were saying this. I think your example is stupid. White people to minorities are not like a teacher is to a student. A student is not a teachers equal while minorities are equal to whites. Why is it that when a white person says something it effects minorities so much more than in reverse. I guess us white folks are superior to minorities so we just laugh it off. Oh its just a minority saying it why do we care. Whatever. Just because I have prejudices does not make me a racist. I try to make an effort to overcome my prejudices and are aware of them. Racists either dont know or dont care. I dont care what modern psychology says, I know what I see and hear and have experienced for myself. I dont care why my dad beat those women up, I just dont want it to happen. I dont care why other people do the crap they do but I think they should be held accountable, even if it is my dad. Charles Manson didnt tell white girl jokes over and over and then these people went and killed the Tate girl. Bin Laden didnt make American jokes over and over until these guys went and hopped on a plane and crashed it into TWC. They were both directly involved in the planning and so forth. Chris Rock isnt brainwashing all black people to go kill all white people because he says that I cant dance and that I cant jump. You keep turning everything that I say around into something that it is not.
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You said "He was strung out on drugs and unfortunately he was acting stupid and got his ass beat." If you're saying now that you meant he was 'strung out' alcohol, I'd have to say you're lying. And its pretty obvious since you then made your 'hypothetical' about someone on drugs and and with diseases. Are you sure you didn't mean you thought he'd taken aspirin (a drug) or smoked a cigarette (a drug)? The trial was held in a white retirement community out of LA. Coincidentally a retirement community of choice for LA police officers, called Simi Valley. And yes, you are as impartial as that jury. Congratulations. Are you saying you don't believe the cops? Or that they would (gasp) lie? Its a little scary that you are picturing me at all. Unfortunately, I know that racists come in all shapes and sizes, so I have no idea what you look like. Minorities are not equals in our society. Its an unfortunate fact. Proportionally they are more likely to live in poverty, to suffer from malnutrition, to receive a poor education in direct comparison to caucasians, to leave high school early, to die violently before they turn 25, to work for minimum wage, to commit suicide, to serve time, and to be turned down for a job or housing because of the color of their skin. Whites hold more power and your denial has NO BASIS IN FACT. And yes, us white folks DO have more power which is why we do laugh off those cracker jokes. Its almost as if you want to declare that racism just doesn't exist. Is that really what you think? Is it racist to tell a joke based on a stereotype of someone's race? The answer can only be 'Yes.' Do you like and support and tell those jokes? You've said 'yes, I do.' Then you are a racist. Racist are not just people who lynch people or call for the extermination of a whole people. THOSE racists get their power from all the less vocal racists that serve as their constituency and their supporters. I'm sure its a painful subject and its not something I'd make fun of you for, or make light of. And I'm not saying people should not be held responsible, only that other create and nurture oppression in all its forms, be it gender or race or class based. We ignore that at our own peril. Anytime you create a wall between people when one does not otherwise exist, especially when you do it based on a stereotype that is not based in fact, you contribute to an environment that at least ALLOWS racism. That environment produces those who commit racist acts from denying a minority a job to killings based on race. I'm not talking about abandoning responsibility. I'm talking about all of us ACCEPTING responsibility for our own actions. I just think you don't like the sound of your words when you hear them. I don't blame you. And answer my last question: why would you risk harm to others for your own amusement? There is at least a chance that I'm correct (I'm not claiming to be the end all be all expert, but I do have a graduate degree in Rhetoric, which is what we are talking about). Would it hurt you to move away from supporting race based humor? Wouldn't you rather move away from it on the off chance that it IS contributing to more racism?
Hayes, I realized after reading the exchange between yourself and MB that our disagreement is based on two things. The first is our definitions of racism. The second is our views on who is responsible for the actions people take. In the first case, you seemingly view all things related to race as racism. I, on the other hand draw a line between things that harm people (denial of housing or employment, killing, beating, etc.) and those things that are not harmful (telling a joke, laughing at a joke, providing increased funding to inner cities which are predominantly minority, etc.). In the second basis of our disagreements, you are of the opinion that there is a great deal of influence on what we do from the people around us. I take the opposing viewpoint that people are not responsible for the actions of others. Now it is you who is guilty of very poor analogies. Osama bin Laden brainwashed people. He then paid for and planned a terrorist attack on the United States. He did not just tell jokes about Americans. He didn't even just go around saying how much he hated Americans. He went out and contracted a hit on thousands of innocent people. As soon as Chris Rock goes out and hires a hitman to kill a white person, I will whole-heartedly agree with your assessment that he and Osama bin Laden are in the same category. Until such a thing happens, this statement was rediculous. Oh, and by the way, attributing quotes to the wrong people is bad. I never ever said that the beating received by Rodney King was not excessive. I only questioned the motivation behind it. I did not watch the trial, so I did not hear any of the cops words about Gorillas in the Mist or anything else. I thought that the motivation may have been that Rodney was driving around drunk, endangering the lives of innocent people, then he got out and took a swing at the cops. You provided the testimony of some of the officers, and I agree now that there were definately racial motivations for at least the officers that made those statements. I also do not think that Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, etc. are making racial jokes in an effort to level the playing field or strike back at their oppressors. These people have more money and power than most of the white people in America will ever see in their lifetimes. They tell jokes to make people laugh. Other people have a sense of humor. Yours seems to have been removed by one too many psych calsses . PS - To say that because I laugh at jokes that you consider tasteless makes me a constituent of Osama bin Laden shows a total lack of class on your part.
You're wrong. So if bank robbers get caught up in a robbery and resist arrest the police should just leave it alone and not do anything? No, they should do something because we as tax paying citizens expect police to put themselves at risk and to say they shouldn't is just plain stupid. Danger and risks are associated with the job of being a police officer just like it is with a firefighter, soldier, etc.
Blah Blah Mother****ing Blah. RM95, I am so mother****ing sick of your LIBERAL BULL****. Slavery happened a long time ago. I dont feel accountable. The Oscars are not the "White People" awards. I suppose you think "How High" should recieve the Oscar for best picture this year. BTW Spike Lee is an incompetant jackass. Im not even sure if Im a racist. I think I am. Ive never said anything racist to a minority. Ive never acted in a racist manner, i.e. been rude, or acted like an ******* to a minority or something. but sometimes i have racist thoughts. like i had to go to court for something, and the whole courthouse was predominantly hispanic and african american. and the cop that gave me the citation was hispanic, and i thought some bad thoughts. so does that make me a bad person?
